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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:29 PM
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Exiled Allawi (chosen PM of Iraq) was responsible for 45-minute WMD claim
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=526008

The choice of Iyad Allawi, closely linked to the CIA and formerly to MI6, as the Prime Minister of Iraq from 30 June will make it difficult for the US and Britain to persuade the rest of the world that he is capable of leading an independent government.

He is the person through whom the controversial claim was channelled that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction could be operational in 45 minutes.

Dr Allawi, aged 59, who trained as a neurologist, is a Shia Muslim who was a member of Saddam Hussein's Baath party in Iraq and in Britain, where he was a student leader with links to Iraqi intelligence. He later moved into opposition to the Iraqi leader and reportedly established a connection with the British security services. His change of allegiance led to Dr Allawi being targeted by Iraqi intelligence. In 1978 their agents armed with knives and axes badly wounded him when they attacked him as he lay asleep in bed in his house in Kingston-upon-Thames.

Dr Allawi became a businessman with contacts in Saudi Arabia. He was charming, intelligent and had a gift for impressing Western intelligence agencies. After the 1991 Gulf War, the Iraq National Accord (INA) party, which he helped to found, became one of the building blocks for the Iraqi opposition in exile. The organisation attracted former Iraqi army officers and Baath party officials, particularly Sunni Arabs, fleeing Iraq.

In the mid-1990s the INA claimed to have extensive contacts in the Iraqi officer corps. Dr Allawi began to move from the orbit of MI6 to the CIA. He persuaded his new masters that he was in a position to organise a military coup in Baghdad.

With American, British and Saudi support, he opened a headquarters and a radio station in Amman in Jordan in 1996, declaring it was "a historic moment for the Iraqi opposition". After a failed coup attempt that year there were mass arrests in Baghdad. Abdul-Karim al-Kabariti, the Jordanian prime minister of the day, said that INA's networks were "all penetrated by the Iraqi security services".

...more...

THIS PISSES ME OFF MORE THAN I CAN SAY!!!

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:31 PM
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1. and he's a cousin to Chalibi
the creator of the mobile weapons labs....:shrug:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:36 PM
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2. Pulled together all DU links today from LBN...good info
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:44 PM
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6. thanks maddezmom!
This whole mess has me just madder than I thought I could get.

The absolute shameless scamming and destruction never stops with these jerks, does it?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:30 PM
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14. everytime I check the story seems to change
just trying to keep all the info together....so many different variations, it makes my head spin. :crazy:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:39 PM
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3. Bush is an idiot, 100%. Yeah. This guy will be a "divider not a uniter"
just like bush. Idiot.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:40 PM
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4. Another flake with big aspirations
What happened to al-Sadr's moment?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:43 PM
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5. Also very well know in Iraq Business circles as being CORRUPT!
I just heard this on NPR. He has taken money from EVERYONE!He also has relatives working as middlemen accepting his kickbacks throughout the newly formed Iraqi (US APPOINTED) ministries. Can the US be any more stupid? This guy is dead meat.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:47 PM
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7. Not Only That, The Admin. Is Lying About Who Chose Him!
Edited on Fri May-28-04 06:50 PM by Beetwasher
The admin. through the NYT is making it seem as if Allawi was chosen by Brahimi. Brahimi claims the choice caught him off guard.

See:

www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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dixielib Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:54 PM
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9. I thought the choice was Brahimi's to make
Is this more like a recommendation or are they bypassing Brahimi?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:26 PM
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13. It Seems Like the Admin. is FOISTING this Guy on Brahimi and Trying
to make it seem as if Brahimi chose him.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:55 PM
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33. Iraq gets "Demockercy".
Courtesy of the BFEE.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 06:52 PM
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8. Tonight on Marketplace (NPR), reporter said Allawi known for corruption.
I have looked for a link and it's not up yet.

Marketplace has been doing a series on Iraq reconstrution, with pretty hard-hitting stuff about the rampant corruption.

This reporter, who has a lot of experience in Iraq, said that Allawi has a well-known reputation for self-dealing and corruption and that he (the reporter) had spoken with several people who said specifically that they were paying bribes to Allawi through his relatives.

The reporter said that he does not think this will be a popular choice in Iraq, particularly because of this element of his reputation.

I will keep an eye out for a link on this story.
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nolajazz Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:50 PM
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25. Yes. He also said Allawi was probably the second most unpopular
figure in Iraq currently (Chalibi is the most unpopular).

The reporter had absolute no positive things to say about Allawi. He said the ordinary Iraqis see Allawi as corropt as Saddam Husain. Also, he is a cousin to Chalibi, and his relatives control several ministries. Iraqis say the cronyism is as bad as Saddam's (I will say as bad as Bush's, too).

Listening in this report I almost yelled, what a joke Bush's bringing democracy to Iraq is! Now I have no doubt that big trouble in Iraq still waits for Bush after 6/30.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:04 PM
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10. low-hanging fruit on Allawi
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/12/20/Worldandnation/Iraqi_council_mired_i.shtml

IYAD ALLAWI, 59 - A Shiite doctor and former Baath Party member, Allawi moved to London in the '70s and formed the Iraqi National Accord. His group failed in a 1996 CIA-backed coup, but it maintained contacts with dissident Iraqi officers and helped persuade many units not to resist the U.S.- led invasion in March. Allawi argues that a stable Iraq is possible only if most Iraqis believe they have a place in a new regime. The only people he would exclude are those who were directly involved in Hussein's regime, he recently told Beirut's Daily Star.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:15 PM
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11. he'll probably be prime minister for about 45 minutes before he's hit with
a WAD(weapon of asshole destruction).
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:16 PM
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12. Hey guys...this is "Curveball".
It's got to be "Curveball" our intelligence asset, a cousin to Chalabi, who told us all about Iraq's WMDs.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:39 PM
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16. That's exactly what I thought and explains why Chalibi wouldn't finger him
Edited on Fri May-28-04 07:40 PM by mike1963
These guys (Shrubco) remind me of that old Monty Python movie where the guy gets his arms & legs cuts off and refuses to holler Uncle.
:eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:40 PM
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17. here's a great article: on Curveball and ties to Chalibi and the US
~snip~
When American spooks proved resistant, Chalabi cozied up to their counterparts in foreign intelligence services. To the Germans, Chalabi provided a source code named "Curveball" (appropriately, as it turned out), who told of Saddam's building mobile bioweapons labs. Another defector sent to the DIA by Chalabi supported Curveball's tale. DIA labeled this defector a "fabricator" and attached a warning notice to his report, but the notice was so highly restricted that other intelligence officials never saw it. Both defectors' reports—apparently pure fiction—worked their way into official pronouncements and became part of the Bush administration's building case for war. Months later, when Colin Powell was feeling burned for having dramatically presented "facts" to the United Nations Security Council that turned out to be shaky at best, the secretary of State privately, but bitterly, blamed Chalabi.

Powell also faults the neocons in the Bush administration who swallowed Chalabi's phony stories and pushed them into speeches by the president and vice president. With his clever sense for bureaucratic gamesmanship, Chalabi fed the neocons' hunger for raw intelligence. If the CIA and other spy services weren't going to come up with the goods on Saddam, then Chalabi would. He found a receptive audience in the office of the vice president and at the Pentagon. I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, the veep's chief of staff, and Wolfowitz were eagerly looking for links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. With his media friends, Chalabi hyped a story, often cited by the neocons, about a secret meeting in Prague between Muhammad Atta, the leader of the 9/11 hijackers, and a high-level Iraqi intelligence officer. (After months of investigation, the CIA and FBI determined that the meeting had never taken place.)

Much of chalabi's dubious intelligence was funneled to the DIA through top Pentagon civilians. Under Secretary Feith himself signed a long and detailed summary of the intelligence linking Saddam to terrorists and WMD. The Feith memo, stamped secret, submitted to Congress and leaked to the conservative Weekly Standard magazine last summer, reads like a conspiracy theorist's greatest hits. Interviewed last week by NEWSWEEK, Feith was a little defensive about his relationship with Chalabi. "The press stories would have him as my brother. I met him a few times. He was very smart, very articulate," Feith said. Feith allowed he has always been drawn to the stories of exiles who come back to save their countries. But he rejected the idea that he had been Chalabi's tool or dupe.

Over at the State Department and CIA, career bureaucrats viewed Chalabi with a jaundiced eye. State Department auditors found that Chalabi had not always kept the most meticulous records of the funds flowing into the Iraqi National Congress. Diplomats suspected Chalabi was using taxpayers' money to fund his own war-propaganda campaign, which was barred by law. In the summer of 2002, the State Department moved to cut off Chalabi's funding, but he was rescued by his friends at the Pentagon. That fall the Defense Department began picking up the check using secret intelligence funds. All told, Chalabi's INC has been paid about $33 million by State and some $6 million by the DIA. (Not all of Chalabi's intelligence operation was dodgy; last week, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard Myers told Congress that some of the information turned over by the INC had saved the lives of American soldiers.)

~snip~
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5042327/
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:11 AM
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30. German intelligence (BND) claimed Curveball lives in Germany
He's said to be a chemist. Sorry, I've got a German news source online, but a reputable one: Spiegel online.

The article may move into the pay-per-view archive soon:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,298425,00.html
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:22 PM
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23. I'm laughing and crying at the same time. Curveball!
Of course. Who else could it possibly be? The perfect choice for the soon-to-be late Prime Minister of the totally sovereign state of Iraq ... Prime Minister Curveball!!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:31 PM
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24. omg... you are right.....
the neocons have totaly lost it if they think this will fly.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:37 PM
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15. What did Al Gore say?
Edited on Fri May-28-04 07:39 PM by madaboutharry
Something about us deserving a foriegn policy team with minimal competence. Grown-ups my ass, they are nothing but a bunch of losers.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:44 PM
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18. Con Artists and Neocons
Birds of a feather.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:47 PM
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19. The sad fact is - they are winning.
The neocons are utterly corrupt, but not stupid*. The leaders of this cabal are making billions of dollars. They have hijacked our government and are using it for personal gain. The only way they lose is if we can punish them afteer the cabal is out of power. If they simply go away with billions of dollars, and thousands of dead innocent people in their wake, they win. Unfortunately, that is the likely outcome.

*Of course - GW Bush is stupid, but he is only a tool of the real ringleaders of the criminal administration.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 07:53 PM
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20. I was wondering what was gonna be wrong with this guy
Edited on Fri May-28-04 07:54 PM by KamaAina
after all, the last one turned out to be an Iranian spy...

...now I know. Figures. :puke:

Edit: Iranian spy, not "Iranina" (a pistachio-flavored soda?)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:19 PM
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22. kick
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 09:17 PM
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21. Kick.
:kick:
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 11:24 PM
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26. This from BBC online .....
"The U.S. has welcomed a decision by the Iraqi Governing Council to
nominate Shia former exile Iyad Allawi as Iraq's interim prime
minister."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3759423.stm

What a surprise! I wonder how long before Blair and Howard also
give their endorsement.

And I wonder how long he will last.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:28 AM
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27. KICK
"Curveball"???
:evilfrown:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:41 AM
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28. It just gets more insane!!!
Just when I thought it couldn't. I guess this means that Chilabi will get a pass and the investigation into his nefarious ops will get swept under the proverbial rug. I just don't know how Bushco can get away with this persistent insanity. Only guess is that they have control over Congress and the Supreme Court to such an extent that nothing can touch them.

Will al Sitani, if he lives, call for an uprising sometime in July, headed up by al Sadr, if he is alive by then? I read where Bushco is trying to co-opt al Sadr with some sort of deal. We shall see if that pans out.As I see it these two are the only players that can thwart Buscho.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:44 AM
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29. Still batting 1000. This gang can do Nothing right.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:57 AM
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31. Kick.
:kick:
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 04:26 PM
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32. This is fucking ridiculous!
I got an instant headache after reading this article. I can't even think of what to say.

Due to my sudden illness, I reserve the right to comment later.

"I gotta go lay down"! :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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