Arnold Schwarzenegger Would Get 25% of the Vote ...

Arnold Schwarzenegger Would Get 25% of the Vote If Californians Voted Today
Sat Aug 09 2003 18:00 ET

California voters would remove Governor Gray Davis from office and replace him with Arnold Schwarzenegger by a 19 percentage-point margin if the election were held today, according to a TIME/CNN Poll.

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Schwarzenegger leads Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamanate, his closest competitor, by a 25%-to-15% margin. Trailing were State Sen. Tom McClintock (9%), former candidate for governor Bill Simon (7%) and (tied with 4%) Hustler publisher Larry Flynt, columnist Arianna Huffington, and former Major League Baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein beat Schwarzenegger to replace Davis, 22 percent to 20 percent, if she had been a candidate, according to to TIME/CNN survey.

But California voters are not convinced that the Austrian-born action hero is capable of governing the state: 45% think he is, but many (55%) think he isn't capable (39%) or are unsure (16%). Schwarzenegger is not perceived as falling into any ideological camp: more see him as "moderate" (40%) than either conservative (23%) or "liberal" (19%).

The TIME/CNN Poll, conducted Aug. 8, surveyed 508 registered California voters by telephone. The margin of error is +/- 4.3%.

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and the only chance for the Democrats to retain the Governorship is to rally around Cruz Bustamante, our Danny DeVito to their Terminator.

Davis does not lose the recall by a very large percentage. It's possible, especially if Democrats threaten to recall the recall, that Californians will realize that trading a candidate with over 40% of the vote for a candidate with only 25%, a candidate whom almost half believe is not even qualified to run, is not a fair exchange. Also, polls tend to be more an inconsequential expression of protest than the more considered decision of voting. Plus, polls reflect a much wider audience than those who actually care enough to vote.

Please put down the crack pipe.

Love,

The Rest of America

How f_kin stupid can you be to vote for someone which knows nothing about governing?

The California media has been attacking Davis and promoting the recall since before the Republicans even considered it a serious idea.

Without the media promoting it, there is no way it would have gotten this far.

With the media now promoting Arnold with the same enthusiasm they have for attacking Davis, Democrats are in big trouble.

Thier Pro-Arnold bias shows 24/7 and it is sickening to see them in action, competing to see who can kiss Arnold's ass the best. They keep throwing softball questions at Arnold, and all he does is use the same damned bullshit lines over and over again. Even Reagan wasn't THAT stupid!

Larry Flynt went on the Lawrence O' Donnell show on MSNBC and in 5 minutes, Larry laid out concrete proposals. Even O Donnel was surprised to hear Larry's concrete answers. One great thing Larry said is that there is "A LOT OF RED MEAT OUT THERE INVOLVING A CERTAIN PERSON". I can't wait for Larry to open the floodgates on Steroid Boy!

You think California is in trouble now? Let him screw it even more, then they'll be begging for any Democrat, Davis included to come back. Also, since Bush Jr. is being so chummy with him wait until the blowback hits him in the face with Arnold's past. Can you say hypocracy?

You think California is in trouble now? Let him screw it even more, then they'll be begging for any Democrat, Davis included to come back.

the problem with this strategy is, that the media is fully capable of painting a rosy picture of the worst disaster. take a look at how the media has spun Duhbya's disastrous mishandling of the economy. or, no matter how bad things get, Schwarzenegger can always fall back on Duhbya's tactic of blaming the predecessor.

The show biz side of the news is fascinated with Arnold but it's surprising how even some of the more blatantly Republican-leaning pundits like Candy Crowley and Bill Schneider and Judy Woodruff, and most of the Georgetown "liberal" elite types who thought Clinton was low-class hicky scum seem almost horrified that someone as crass as the Terminator would win public office. They would like nothing better than to build him up and tear him down like they did with Ventura. Arnold will be a joke as Governor and they know it. This will backfire on Republicans as soon as they realize that the Schwarzenegger phenomenon is closer to the appeal of Dean than to the ideological politics of Bush and the conservatives.

ALL of the people mentioned above were ALL Smiles and laughter when it came to Steroid Boy!

I haven't seen much today. But day after Lena, Crowley really was shocked. Schneider was skeptical that all the cheering crowds were actually voters. Dowd makes fun of the muscle-beach politics as did the editorial last week in the NY Times. Matt Lauer practically implied he was lying when he said he couldn't hear the question, "Will you make public your tax returns." NBC on the Brokaw's Nightly News ran a long negative montage of all the questions he was ducking. Even Limbaugh said let's not have an orgasm here and Drudge has been running pretty embarrassing stuff, including the photo of a nude woman on his shoulders (he's put in a link since.) All in all, the basic story is that Arnold is part of the political "circus" in California. Of course, the story is a hot story, good copy, good for ratings in a slow news month, but I don't think the politics is so favorable to him.

Bigger sampling please. And in at least a couple of weeks after Arnold (I was too chickenshit to take Davis on in a real election) Tinydick, dropped his bombshell.

Even then it's 25%, and the biggest chunk f that came from Repubs who want to vote for Schwarzy by default.

this is not as bad as it may seem. But, Bustamante must get to work right a way!!!

Well, if you guys let this fly, I can just roll over for 2004.
Or, better yet, where did they poll? The Terminator 3 audiences?

... in one of his movies, maybe conan the barbarian?

The media has only been slobbering 24/7 over ahh-null for three days now.

apt observation by IG .... Twins.

I would say this is actually a positive -Schwarzenegger leads Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamanate, his closest competitor, by a 25%-to-15% margin. Especially given the fact that the other Dem has decided not to run. Add this into the equation -But California voters are not convinced that the Austrian-born action hero is capable of governing the state: 45% think he is, but many (55%) think he isn't capable (39%) or are unsure (16%) - and I think Arnold is definately beatable.

Arnold's numbers are as high as they are because the screening process is too liberal, in a case like this recall you should only be polling likely voters, if not only very likely voters. This election will only bring out the hardcores and will have very low turnout. Arnold is likely to be drawing from his name recognition among those who probably won't vote. I would expect him to be only 3-5% ahead of Bustamante among likely voters. The real number to look at is the 16% that McClintock and Simon are bringing in together, proving that they are really eating up the Conservative base. 25% is probably the highest Arnold will see because he is still the unblemished star in the public's eye, the campaign has yet to begin. From this poll I would expect Bustamante to easily Cruz to victory, unless Simon or McClintock drop out.

Arnold has little room to go up. Two months from now he won't look as attractive.

... asking those being surveyed whether they think being a habitual groper/molester of women is a desirable qualification to be governor.

Californians Against the Costly Recall
http://www.no-recall.com

Hasta la vista, Arnold!

This is the official link to the TIME poll. Some unexpected details:

· Arianna is more popular among Republicans than Democrats.
· McClintock gets more votes than Simon. If one drops out ...
· Garamendi's withdraw doesn't give Bustamante much of boostamante.
· Almost 10% more people vote not to recall Davis than to elect Arnold.
· A majority either think Schwarzenegger is incapable of being governor or aren't sure.

http://www.time.com/time