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LauraK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:30 PM
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2 More U.S. Troops Catch (Severe) Pneumonia Abroad
WASHINGTON - Two more soldiers overseas have come down with serious pneumonia, bringing the unexplained cases to 17, the Army said Monday.

Officials are investigating the cause of some 100 cases counted since March, focusing on a number of them so serious the patients had to be put on ventilators and flown to Europe.

The number of serious cases was 15 last week and now has risen to 17, said a statement Monday from the Army surgeon general's office.

The statement said officials have found "no infectious agent common to all of the cases," and no evidence the patients were exposed to biological or chemical weapons, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or environmental toxins.

Officials said last week that cases were among troops serving in the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq (news - web sites), with 10 of the then-15 cases from Iraq and the others from Uzbekistan, Qatar and elsewhere. Monday's statement didn't say where the new cases happened, and no one was available to comment.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:19 PM
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1. sounds like the old
anthrax serum. Bush got the new one. Did the soldiers get the controversial anthrax innoculations that have been proven to have certain blowback potential? Lots of neatly forgotten lawsuits, documentation and warnings. Pneumonia is only a symptom and only one of several reported by families or foreign doctors, not the Pentagon.
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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 05:45 PM
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2. No it sounds like an unsuccessful plant
I thought you knew...everybody else does...The troops went on a 'hauling mission' of unknown contents then started dropping like flies...I didn't think he was that dumb -- Bushco that is..
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:30 PM
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4. yea and notice that now
they are including cases from Qatar and former soviet republics to muddy the waters. Im sure if it was caused by the "hauling mission", then they will include cases of regular pneumonia from other countries to confuse the picture.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:58 PM
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5. I think it's the vaccine, also
Occam's Razor
one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 01:17 AM
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6. I don't think the vaccines are to blame
Soldiers were vaccinated here in the States before they shipped out, several months ago. We should have seen these allergic reactions long before now. Furthermore, allergic reactions like you would expect from a bad vaccine shouldn't cause pneumonia-like symptoms in afflicted individuals. It seems more probable it is something other than the vaccines.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 06:24 PM
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3. At first I thought is was SARS but it isn't spreading fast enough. But
I thought my friend told me the SARS virus dies above 85*?, so I guess it could be SARS but have died off because of the heat and might come back in the winter months. That's what the scientists are saying about SARS in Asia.
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