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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 08:25 AM
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FDA Threatens Red Cross With Fines
The government is threatening the American Red Cross with thousands of dollars in fines for allegedly violating a court settlement that was supposed to end continuing disputes over blood safety rules.

In April, the Food and Drug Administration reached an agreement to settle charges that the Red Cross had committed "persistent and serious violations" of federal blood safety rules dating back 17 years.

That settlement spelled out changes the Red Cross must make to comply with FDA rules - such as ensuring that no patient receives potentially unsafe blood and rejecting donations from improper donors.

For the first time, the settlement gave FDA authority to immediately fine the Red Cross for violations.

Red Cross
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:01 AM
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1. It's about time...
Never mind the baseless 'emergency' blood donations they constantly solicit.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:33 AM
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2. Until you need them...
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 09:34 AM by leesa
All blood banks are chronically short of blood. It's a real shame when you have someone bleeding and there are no units available. Red Cross does a good job. They have been demonized for years because they often blow the whistle on activities of the US.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:53 AM
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4. WHEN
did that whore EVER blow the whistle on the US?

Do you have any idea who is on their Board of Directors?
Or how that corporation is structured?
Or how hard it is trying to destroy the International Red Cross?

Do you know how hard the AMC fights AGAINST the existence of international humanitarian law?
How hard it tries to DESTROY the Geneva Conventions?

Ask US soldiers how the ARC has treated them in the past.
It a bloody shame all right.
Its a bloody shame that the ARC even EXISTS.
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georgiann Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 11:41 AM
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8. Questions
You bring up a lot of interesting questions and accusations and then leave the reader wondering what the answers are.

"Do you have any idea who is on their Board of Directors?"
I checked ARC's site and they list the board members but none of the names sounded familiar. So who is on the board that bothers you?

"Or how that corporation is structured?"
No, how is it structured and what's the problem with it?

"Or how hard it is trying to destroy the International Red Cross?"
No, what has it tried to do to the IRC?

"Do you know how hard the AMC fights AGAINST the existence of international humanitarian law?"
Again, no. Tell us how.

"How hard it tries to DESTROY the Geneva Conventions?"
What's the scoop here?

"Ask US soldiers how the ARC has treated them in the past."
What have they done to our soldiers?

I'm not being a smart ass...I've never trusted the goody-goody image of the AMC but am totally ignorant concerning the above. Spill the dirt.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:49 PM
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9. Hi georgiann!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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georgiann Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:49 PM
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14. Thanks
I've been a "lurker" for a long time - just haven't posted for a very long time.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:53 AM
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5. Well...
I worked in their labs for 7 years and saw an incredible amount of waste. Moreover, their 'altruistic' approach leaves a great deal to be desired. Even in the late 60s and early 70s, they charged patients through the nose for blood. The concept of the RC as a non-profit organization is laughable, because they do make a pretty penny on their sales, but hide it perks for the people at the top.
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petersjo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:01 PM
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11. Ex-hospital laboratory employee...
Edited on Fri Aug-22-03 01:04 PM by petersjo
for 14 years in 70s and 80s and did considerable blood banking. We explored options for external blood supplies when it became no longer practical to draw our own donors, and Red Cross was never in the running. They had a terrible reputation for waste (of the product) sloppy practices, and inefficiency in distribution, to say nothing of excessive charges. The worst part of it is, after all these years, little has changed with regard to their blood-banking practices and policies. Better options are available.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 12:58 PM
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 02:00 PM
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15. State your evidence....
Or learn to keep a civil tongue in your head.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 09:46 AM
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3. Anything
that will help destroy the American Red Cross Corporation is grounds for celebration.

The ARC is a wholly owned susidiary of Johnson & Johnson - which is why J&J products use the RED CROSS emblem on their products, a practice which is FORBIDDEN by both federal and international law.

The RED CROSS Design is a registered trademark of JOHNSON & JOHNSON.
Products bearing this trademark have no connection with the American National Red Cross.
http://www.band-aid.com/cuts_scrapes.shtml

We're the top humanitarian brand. The Red Cross symbol enjoys universal credibility, trust and respect - values important to audiences, components key to effective news delivery.
http://www.redcross.org/press/mediarel/10ways.html

If the ARC is stomped into the ground, Johnson & Johnson will just have to get a new bitch to rent out.
http://www.redcross.org/press/disaster/ds_pr/030417ridge.html

(The ARC did not apparently have ANY problem with the bombing of warehouses in Afghanistan, nor does it have a problem when IRC workers are shot up in Palestine, nor does it have a problem palming off contaminated blood to the US citizenry.
http://www.jnj.com/news/jnj_news/20030618_092331.htm
And don't get me started on September 11 issues.)

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:48 PM
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13. Did I miss something here?
>that will help destroy the American Red Cross Corporation is grounds for celebration.<

Is that a fact?
My friend is a team leader for the Red Cross. She spends countless hours (and at least one week a month on call,) aiding those whose houses have burned, flooded out, whatever. She works her ass off. FOR FREE. I can't count the number of times she's had to get out of bed in the middle of the night (during the work week,) to go to the scene of a fire, aid those who need her help to secure lodging and other essentials, and do reams of paperwork after that.

It's too bad that the Red Cross doesn't fit your PC requirements, but wow, how much volunteer work do YOU do to aid those that the Red Cross assists?

>And don't get me started on September 11 issues.<

The same friend spent two months in New York after September 11th filling out forms by hand. In triplicate. She assisted hundreds of those who found themselves without the basic necessities of life, not to mention unemployed at the same time.

It's easy to sit on the sidelines and pitch on those who are actually doing the work, isn't it? For all of your hatred of the Red Cross, it seems that there are hundreds of thousands of volunteers more interested in getting the job done than splitting hairs over a logo on a BandAid box.

Julie



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:06 AM
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6. Did they really refuse a million dollars from the Dixie Chicks?
There was a thread here last night, with an article from the Guardian. Forgot to save it, but just did a search. Wonder if this is really true? If so, they are hurting a lot of people for partisan reasons. This is as bad as cancelling Susan Sarandon's appearance a few months ago. Or worse.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1026475,00.html
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andy12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 10:10 AM
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7. Canadian Red Cross
As one who received a transfusion containing the Hepatitis C virus, the result of the Canadian Red Cross's reluctance to ensure a safe blood supply for Canadians has resulted in the blood service being removed from the Red Cross's operations. An award of $1.2 billion was granted to those who sought relief from the court system. Several executive members of the Canadian Red Cross, Health Canada and Armour Drugs are now facing criminal charges in the Canadian Court system.

During this time the American Red Cross sidestepped any legal or moral responsibility for infecting thousands of American citizens.

France, Ireland, Scotland, Italy, Germany and Spain are countries that have investigated and compensated those infected through the blood system. The Minister of Health in France was convicted of manslaughter, due to the tainted blood scandal in France. They knew they were infecting people, but it was not cost effective to deal with the situation.

andy
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-23-03 03:24 AM
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16. Yes, but the French blood scandal did not involve the French Red Cross
Transfusion and blood collection services in France are run through the public health system. No connection to the French Red Cross. Which is why government officials could be sued for the scandal.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 01:28 PM
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12. Legacy of (Senator) Liddy Dole.....
Rampant fraud and fanatacism in Red Cross! She was the whore to beat all whores! BTW - Why don't we hear a peep outta her in the Senate? Because she is a god-dammed national disgrace! Her entire life has to be scripted or she falls to pieces! Have fun with your Junior Senator NC DUers!
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