Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"State Seeks Its Fair Share" (California getting screwed)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 05:15 PM
Original message
"State Seeks Its Fair Share" (California getting screwed)
While the GOP tries to overthrow our government because of alleged fiscal mismanagement, it comes to light that we are carrying the whole goddamn country. The amounts are staggering:

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/story/7292899p-8237496c.html

So Cali not only gets bent over with regard to the Electoral College, but also on the monetary end. It's about time the truth be told.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. Wealth re-distribution?
I thought Republicans were against re-distributing wealth? I guess it's ok when it benefits them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ferg Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. $58 Billion???

"In 2002, California sent in excess of $58 billion more to Washington in federal taxes than it received back in federal spending," the institute said.


Sheesh. Our California deficit is much smaller than that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Yentatelaventa Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 06:19 PM
Response to Original message
3. Why wouldn't CA share its wealth with other states?
It's not like CA is a majority of right wingers or anything. Let's spread that wealth around!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Did you miss the point on purpose?
California needs its fair share of federal money to run its affairs. Why is this so damn lobsided. It's not like we don't have poor, or sick, or unemployed, or disabled, whereas then it would not matter that we helped other states. But we are going broke, and the GOP is attempting a coup as a result.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think your post was typical right-wing blather, a not so thinly veiled, ridiculous comparison between apples and oranges. Nice one, mensa.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. I've noticed that same thing about several of his posts n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. red state welfare
I saw a map of federal net payers states vs.
federal net payies overlayed with the 2000
election results.

The results showed that red states are big
welfare leaches and blue states are big welfare
payers.

I'm using welfare to refer to all federal spending
programs not the type that repugs always whine about.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Yep, I'm here in right-wing East Tennessee and we get more
than we give. Doesn't make sense that our people support federal tax cuts since it affects Tennessee (and other net recipients) more negatively than net giver states.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Where would on find such a map?
I would love to see who we're paying for so that I can remind them of it when they whine about Cal.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 03:12 AM
Response to Original message
9. i've always thought that Calif is getting screwed
Edited on Tue Aug-26-03 03:13 AM by eablair3
this just puts some supporting data behind it. thanks for posting it.

I thought that the whole energy fiasco was a ruse to screw California, and it worked. Bush refused to cap the prices, even though FERC should have. This cost billions to California, while Bush's energy buddies like Ken Lay make out like bandits. Oh, .. they are bandits.

I have never understood how gas prices are the highest in the country in California. Gas is refined in N. California and trucked to Nevada where it's sold for 50 cents less per gallon than it is at gas stations in California that are only a few miles from the refinery. I paid $2.10 per gallon today for regular unleaded, and I heard some wingnut talk show host on the radio complaining that gas prices in Houston have shot up to $1.49 from $1.29. I think the oil companies are just soaking Californians, and they have been doing it for years. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Perhaps California needs to secede.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 05:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. I'm for it...
Secession, that is. Preferably: California + Oregon + Washington + Hawaii + Alaska = United States of the Pacific.

(Don't worry, it'll be open border to Canadians, Labor/Labour voters from Australia & the U.K., and American citizens who can show proof of liberalism in the form of voting records, volunteer work, contributions, and/or longtime DU membership.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 14th 2024, 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC