CNN has live coverage of the moving of the monument

in Alabama. (10 commandments)

No link obviously.

That would be cool T.V.

I'm an atheist so I don't think it'll happen.

> I hope God stops it!

Cooler still would be if God did something dramatic like blasting
the rock with new writing that said, for example, "Stop reading
that God-damned (yes, I mean it!) Old Testament and start
listening to what my Son said in the New testament! We've made
some changes since 4,000 years ago and you should too!"

Atlant

God would strike the 10 commandments in half since it's more of a Golden Calf than any true spiritual meaning (aka Exodus 32)

Blast that graven image into a couple hunks of rock...

He must have wanted it gone.

It's a graven image that says not to make graven images.

Fundies everywhere will line up to see it at $20 a head. All procedes going to the RNC of course.

Auction this monument off to churches. Every state I know of needs the money. I'm sure there are any number of churches that would love to have this monument as a symbol.

I'd like 10% for coming up with the idea, please.

Great chance to get on TV for Christianity. W00t! Go team! Touchdowns for Jesus!

the ditty... "Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goal Post of Life"

"Jesus, He Knows Me." GREAT dance tune.

Moore has more to gain from the spectacle of a couple hundred fundies being carried off by police than he does by having the monument kept in place. I wish the leadership in 'Bama would be clever enough to deny them this PR opportunity.

I have been a witness to in recent life. These people are nuts, laying down on the ground for the whole country to see what good church-going, christian folk they are. I hope they throw in a few prayers for our troops.

Or does that thing really look like a washing machine?

Too bad more fundies don't have a sense of humor.

Hilarious. The CNN guy can't hear anything Soledad is saying because of the loud praying. Why, exactly would one need a loudspeaker to communicate with God?:crazy:

And while I'm on the subject, what is with the accents of the speakers? I've lived in Alabama all my life, and those guys aren't from Alabama.

The guy talking now is from Washington, and he's threatening the company that has been hired to move the monument. He's saying "they'll be sorry...".:puke:

Matthew 6:5

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

The real Christians pay attention to the next verse:

Matthew 6:6

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

It's a shame when a Pagan knows what their Christ said about public prayer better than they do.

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

I've seen you post them in the past week and they are beautiful!!!!!

> Is there rending of garments...

Please! This is news, not a Fox Entertainment show!
No rending of garments allowed here!

Atlant

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:-)

This little exercise about the separation of church and state takes all the attention away from the REAL exercise about the separation of church and state. And that is: The church (Christian Coalition and it's various mutations) are running our State. What a tempest in a teapot, a lovely smoke screen. Keeps the troops and the faithful occupied.

Such high drama. These people cannot step back and see this from an outside perspective. This thing represents just a statue, (or washing machine as someone just suggested!) But it is being given importance it doesn't deserve as an object.

At the rate they are weeping and praying, someone is going to begin speaking in tongues or seeing visions from all the intensity being exhibited here.

They should place on the grounds of a church, where people will flock to it, maybe charge admission?

Or are they all on the public dole?

Don

therefore, no jobs.

...in the fallout. God has notoriously bad aim when he smites.

Maybe he's nearsmighted.

:evilgrin:

:7 :7 :7

:shrug:

going to boycott the moving company now....where did I hear that the right wing says thats all the Democrats do.....boycott when events happen that they don't like......two faced

But we can't get any coverage of flag draped coffins coming in from Iraq???

:wtf:

and the monument is now MOVED.

Buh bye.

As i understood it, they are just moving it into the copy room or some other part of the Building - doesn't the order say OUT of the building?

So now the Judges can go rub up against it between sending innocent people to jail? (I'm one of the ones they are trying to jail btw in Alabama)

> So now the Judges can go rub up against...

There's this one spot, right between the Vth and Xth
commandments, that would even put Mark Morford into
exclamations of ecstacy...

Atlant

If the anti-war movement had had this type of coverage...hmm...

And I was thinkin too...Isnt this a graven image that everyone is bowing down to (prostrating themselves on the TV?) So arent there now two Commandments being broken with these folks lying on the steps over this thing?

What a waste of time and money. Why would CNN even bother with nonsense. Silly me! What am I talking about
CNN is an entertainment center for fools only.

They just interviewed the father of a family who had driven in from Kentucky or someplace. Brought their 2 kids. Had to show the kids how to stand up for what they believe. He said it was time to stand up or lose our rights as Americans.

Puhleeze!!!

I bet CNN didn't even consider it a story then. I guess that's because there was no potential of someone going berserk and violence erupting.

Here’s what really pisses me off about this. If these people were peace protesters, civil rights protesters or environmental protesters they would have been fire hosed, pepper sprayed, shot with rubber bullets and had the dogs sic’d on them. Riot police would have stormed them and kicked the crap out of them before dragging them off to jail.

And the reporters wouldn't have interviewed them. I don't know how CNN played this story, but locally they only interviewed the fundies. Only one time in the past week did I see someone "for" the removal interviewed...an antheist, and he didn't get 1/5 the time the people did FROM OTHER STATES!!!

wanting to have their votes counted.

He purposely had it moved in under cover of darkness because he knew what he was doing was wrong.

Someone on local talk radio just said that the installation of the monument WAS filmed - by a film crew working for D. James Kennedy and the Coral Ridge Ministries.

(Edited to fix the name of Kennedy's sleazy outfit.)

This has not been a secret. It has been in our news for 2 years. Wow, CNN is really on the ball, they just noticed it.

I believe Moore actually receives money from the sale of the tapes, too.

Easy to remember; think of Tom Ridge. :puke:

No offense to nits.

:-)

What I meant was that everyone knew it was there the next day. The locals covered it, but I don't recall CNN setting up station outside the courthouse explaining what had happened.

Again, I guess it was because it didn't have the potential for violence, like the removal does.

to Shrubs summer camp in Crawford TX.
Maybe the four words "Thou Shalt Not Kill" will catch his eye.

Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/27/ten.commandments/index.html

Surprising that someone didn't burst through, and throw him/herself in front of the wheels!

with no witnesses except those watching national television.

Workers remove Ten Commandments monument

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- A moving crew rolled a massive Ten Commandments monument out of the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building on Wednesday to comply with a federal court order, as anguished protesters prayed at the building's steps.

It took about an hour and a-half to lift the 5,280-pound granite marker and roll it from its public site to a private place in the building.

About 100 pro-monument supporters who have been on a weeklong vigil on the building's front plaza were urged to remain calm and not rush the glass doors. Some yelled, but the crowd was restrained.

Two dozen city police were stationed around the perimeter of the building and others patrolled the surrounding block on motorcycles.

It's about time.

how the monument got in the courthouse in the first place.

Justice Roy "I'm" Moore (holier than thou) SNUCK IT IN AFTER MIDNIGHT. How proud of yourself and your religiousity can you be if you sneak the darn thing in?

...a couple of hundred misguided, unemployed retards = ALL DAY CNN COVERAGE

100000 protesting the War = ho hum, a 'couple hundred losers' and 45sec on CNN

Damn that libbbrul media!

Bigby

But, me thinks this cultural war we’re in is just going to get a little crazier with more acts of defiance and possibly more.

It’s encouraging that the courts have been upholding the Constitution in this area (for the most part). But the continued pandering of our elected officials is troublesome. After the 9th circuit struck down the pledge, all of congress were out on the front steps openly acting in defiance of the decision. Protest of policy is one thing, protest of constitutional rule of law is akin to anarchy. This country is a secular republic, not a theocracy nor a mob-rule democracy.

There was a letter-to-the-editor in the L.A. Times recently, where the writer basically said that this country was 86% Christian and the other 14% need to shut up.

Our elected officials are there to uphold the Constitution and lead by example. Unfortunately, their leadership has moved us into this cultural war and the ramifications may have some unpleasant realities attached to it.

Was equally disgusted with it.

Being a Jew I'd like to know how these Christian fundies would feel if I placed a 4,000 lb monument of a Menorah or the Torah in their court houses secretly overnight. How long do you think it would take before they were singing the "Separation of Church and State" tune? Damn hypocrites.

from a burning Bush. ;-)

He has to be one tortured soul along about now...


"The truly sacred anwers to no dogma." - K. Gray