Perle cites errors in Iraq, urges power transfer

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PARIS (Reuters) - Richard Perle, a leading Pentagon adviser and architect of the U.S. war to topple Saddam Hussein, said the United States had made mistakes in Iraq and that power should be handed over to the Iraqis as fast as possible.

In an interview with the Le Figaro daily newspaper to be published Thursday, Perle defended the U.S.-led war in Iraq and restated his belief that France had been wrong to lead international opposition to the conflict.

"Of course, we haven't done everything right," said Perle, according to the French text of the interview. "Mistakes have been made and there will be others.

... "Today, the answer is to hand over power to the Iraqis as soon as possible," he added.

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who knew Perle was antiwar?

so it remains a headline and is sent in their news letter.

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Translation: Get the heck out of there before everyone in the world discovers what an ass I am.

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Hahaha, thats the funniest thing I've ever read..!

I notice he's been hiding out overseas ever since his favorite little war got messy.

He says this in France? But not in the U.S.?
Bring out troops home now?

Who woulda thunk this hardcore PNACer would be a pacifist commie pinko "softonTerraism" leftie snotbag?

Mistakes? Surely not one of his.........

Oops. Sorry we invaded your country, scuse us while we leave.

I don't buy his bs. What the hell is he up to now?

NKorea, Syria and Iran. Have to free the troops up somehow. Antiwar? Not a chance of it.

I wish he'd get the hell out of here. His presence fouls la belle France . . . and he embodies every disgusting reason that's propelling me to move here.

Isn't it hypocritical to now adopt the views of the French, to admit that we need to get out of Iraq ASAP, perhaps even a MISTAKE to go in there, and then to condemn the French for not being as stupid as the American Administration and Perle himself?

picketed his ass out of the country. Where does he live? Someone over there should publish his address, and call for mass demonstrations, and run him out.

I'm not going to start the protests until the French grant me asylum . . .

I gather from my neighbors that they're rather amused at the mess we find ourselves in.

He spends his summers there, usually finds an opportunity to shoot off his mouth to the French press.

Tell that to the parents and children of those killed in Iraq. While this fat slob sits at home behind a desk drawing up plans to re-map the ME on behalf of Israel! I just can't stand it anymore!!

He's in Paris (shriek) munching on croissants and sipping cafe'.

These people are insufferable.

from Bush's own Goebbels? This architect of PNAC's imperial plan? This defender of Sharon's Likud? He is nothing more than a traitor, plain and simple, and should suffer the fate designated for traitors.
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via Der Spiegel

There's been lots of requests for that here at DU; some of us saw that in Vanity Fair's current issue but didn't know who was hosting it online because VF isn't! :bounce:

just took a really good look at that picture.

is the embodiment of evil and a detriment the future of the US. It's outrageous that Bushco is made up of Iran Contra figures who were involved in the Iran Contra illegal debacle : Negroponte, Elliot Abrams, Poindexter, Otto Riech and other unsavory characters. If the general public only knew or cared.

Isn't it the death penalty for treason?

Maybe they can ship him to Gitmo.

Oh, did I say that? Why, yes, I did.

about the Nazi leaders getting together as the allies were on their doorstep, and making a pact to be reincarnated?

Geez!...if I didn't know better, I'd think....nah, it couldn't be... could it??? :tinfoilhat:

Going into an election year with a bodybag a day coming back, a cost of tens of billions, a deficit that even the IMF is not crazy about and a coalition whose leaders are in deep kaakaa with their constituency. Yeah, Bushco may be looking for a way out….they’ll write the script, hand it to the mediawhores and the public will applaud the troops coming home while acknowledging that shrub gave it a good try to liberate and democratize a non-christian country…..which the public will be told in ad nauseam, is simply not possible and it was time to cut our losses short.

Oh…but, we think Iran can be democratized, so we’re going to go over there and give it another try….troops get a short R & R and they’re off again.

<My head is dizzy>

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...beating a dead horse here? If they declare victory and head for the hills quickly they have a pretty good chance that Americans with their short attention spans will actually believe we did win in Iraq by next years election?

Don

I suspect that the wrastling between the State and Defense departments for control of policy is being won by the PNAC faction that refuses to relinquish complete control of Iraq because it is the lynchpin for domination of the planet's oil. Those vultures have come a long way to claim their prize and they will coast on an increasingly uneasy but rediculously ignorant and compliant public and work harder on media spin to buy time past the '04 elections. Don't forget that their answer to 'unhelpful' perceptions of themselves is ALWAYS better PR work, as in a Youth Magazine for Arabs so 'they like us and don't blow us up as much.' And Dems have ben complicit in the Patriot Act and the Bomb Iraq?Whatever You Want To DO-Resolution so they ain't gonna be very contentious. I'm afraid our kids in uniform are in the sand box for a long long time.

error at own birth - "I should have been an abortion."

Others will be blamed

and the other neocon chicken hawks. They just knew they were right, didn't they? Hey Perle, how about admitting that you screwed up, then we might listen to what you have to say. Mistakes were made, indeed. Mistakes aren't made. People made mistakes. Big difference.

Remeber? In the middle of the bluster he was quietly shelved...


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No need to stick around anymore, we've successfully destabilized the country. Time to move on and destablized someone else on W's axis of evil list. Pretty soon the whole world will be in chaos and everyone will kill each other. Then Perle and his pals will crawl out of their bunkers and have the whole place to themselves. It's all part of the plan.

Come on, Richard, tell us your plan.

They want to hand it over to Chalabi, Iraq's own answer to Neil Bush. And installing that criminal in office will certainly make the Jordanians happy.

Happy enough to join the Axis of Oil and need to be "liberated", most likely. :grr:

clear out of Iraq - but put in privatized army companies (with lots of US dollars - to bribe officials and make sure the new government is friendly)... and move the troops - sans rest - to the next mission. Wash, rinse, repeat. Looks like we leave - but we leave our corporate military organizations in place - with the US paying for it.

Just my take on it. A leopard really does not change spots.

Add some foreigner and locals and put the troops out of the bullseye and back into the acquisition department.

there are only about 2500 troops in Afghanistan? And the Taliban is regrouping? Is that the game plan for Iraq too?

No wonder those pesky Iraqi's won't rat out Saddam.

I'd say they're throwing * overboard.

This is a very important signal that the Pentagon has told Bush that the U.S. is about to get its ass truly kicked in Iraq and that Bush and Rove had better begin to prepare the American people for a "transfer of power" as quickly as possible to allow us to begin to yank our troops out.

This comes on the heels of Bush's little-boy-tirade yesterday of saying that the U.S. will "never retreat".

Senate Republicans such as Kay Bailey Hutchinson, John McCain and Chuck Hagel have all said that the U.S. needs to immediately put more U.S. troops into Iraq. The Secretary of Defense has said otherwise.

What do these Republicans know that Bush and Rove have been hiding? What is Perle's signal ON FRENCH SOIL signify? I'll tell you.

The U.S. Military in Iraq is about to collapse under the continued popular uprising against our occupation of their land. Chaos is spreading and the Iraqis are becoming bolder and bolder in attacking our troops. Some reports say that our troops are attacked EVERY 20 MINUTES now.

Parents and spouses of loved ones serving in Iraq should be very concerned about their welfare.

Perle's comments were not made "off the reservation". His speaking overseas was pre-approved. It is a way of indirectly beginning to let the American people know that Bush's war is going badly and about to get worse. Perle could safely say this in France to the foriegn press without being immediatley questioned by an inquisitive U.S. media on the significance of his obvious contradiction of Bush's statements yesterday.

We should all keep our eyes open throughout the next two weeks to see what other signs that Bush and Rove begin to send us and the world about their intentions TO RETREAT.

I expect we will be seeing Colin Powell working 24/7 at the U.N. and with NATO and begging them for help.

The U.S. is paying $26,000 to Poland for every single soldier that they have placed in Iraq.

The U.S. taxpayers can not underwrite this operation anymore.

Our U.S. soldiers can not defend themselves against an armed and popular uprising by the Iraqi people.

How many more billions of dollars in debt will George Bush allow this nation to sink before he goes hat in hand to the U.N. and asks for help?

How many more American men and women will die in Iraq before George Bush tells Bechtel and Halliburton that he will have to break his promise of contracts to them by allowing the French and Germans and Russians and Indians and Japanese to share the load, the responsibility and...their own blood for oil?

Nothing new here since this was the guarranteed outcome based on the way they went about this illegal invasion.

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Call the Freepers! I smell an enemy!

Look at this post from Yahoo
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=nmiraqusaperledc&sid=37138445&mid=1710&um=50&.sig=

PERLE HATER OF THE USA
by: piepen12 08/27/03 07:01 pm
Msg: 1710 of 1743
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GUESS WHO?

1 CAUGHT TRANSFERING SENSITIVE INFORMATION TO ISRAEL.

2 CONVICTED....TES CONVICTED OF SPYING FOR ISRAEL.

3 PARDONED BY GEORGE BUSH SR. IN THE 80'S.

4 WRITES ARTICLE IN 1996 FOR A ZIONIST ORGANIZATION CALLED "A CLEAN BREAK" WHEREAS THE OVERTHROW OF SADDAM IS CLEARLY SPELLED OUT, SO BELOVED ISRAEL MAY HAVE PEACE.

5. MADE THE HEAD OF THE INTELEGENCE DIVISION OF THE PENTAGON BY GEORGE BUSH JR.

6 IN MARCH 2003 BUSH JR. PASSES AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT STATES THAT ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING SENSITIVE INFORMATION CONCERNING THE IRAQI WAR AND THE PENTAGON CANNOT BE RELEASED UNTIL 2006.

7. ASKS PERLE TO RESIGN 3 DAYS AFTER EXECUTIVE ORDER IS PASSED.

8. PERLE AGREES TO LEAVE.

9, IN AUGUST 2003 PERLE IS STILL AROUND.

jeopardizes the next invasion. Look for US troops to begin turning over control of parts of Iraq to local Iraqis and withdrawing to a position with an easily defended perimeter and an airfield. That position will be the staging area for the next invasion. Whistle Ass wants more war.

Do they have an English editon online? I bet there's more to this.

it might be in the subscriber-only archive already.

Can't find anything on http://www.figaro.fr yet. But will keep an eye out.

ON EDIT: Ya don't think this is part of the campaign to "soften up" the French vote in the UN Security Council, do ya? All I can say is Perle's previous performance here have been atrocious; I've never seen such a manipulative, whiny schmuck "speaking" for the US.

--that Dick Perle was organizing PowerPoint presentations at the Pentagon arguing that we should keep going and never stop until we overthrow the regimes in Cairo and Riyadh. Remember that? What was his flunkie's name, a Franco-Polish ex-Larouchie who caught Perle's fancy--Laurent Murawiec, if I'm not mistaken?

Wasn't it you that said American children would be singing songs about our invasion of Iraq?

Would that be the quaint diddy "Momma our soldiers went to Iraq and shit fire they didn't come back?"

Momma our soldiers went to Iraq
And shit fire they didn't come back
They're takin orders from a hack
Who talks a load of smack

Heat so hot my blood is boiling
But the troops just keep a toiling
Exxon, Shell, Chevron is seeing oiling
But our blood is flowing on the Earth it's soiling

Momma can we come home soon
And hopefully not in a tomb
We are scared Momma because there isn't much room
And a body bag is not a womb

"If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war... our children will sing great songs about us years from now.":puke:

Mommy, humans scare me.

Sick Dick
Sick Dick Perle
making our collective
toenails curl
thinks Saddam's just
gonna roll over
the fool can't manage
a lousy combover.

or was that fishy smell in Provence just all those containerized victims of the French climate gone afoul? DUH!!!

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