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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 02:11 PM
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Micheal Moore/White Power?
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 02:13 PM by yorgatron
http://www.nathanielturner.com/connectingthedots.htm "In a little more than a decade, filmmaker and writer Michael Moore has become one of the bad boys of the left. Some may question our inclusion of Moore in the left given that few will garner the credentials Moore has amassed in the past ten years, which include two books on the New York Times bestseller list as well as the 2003 Best Documentary Oscar for a movie that confronts the gun industry and the highest honors at this year’s Cannes Film Festival for Fahrenheit 9/11, which critiques GW Bush’s handling of 9-11.

That film companies fell over themselves to distribute Fahrenheit 9/11 after Disney CEO Michael Eisner blocked its release is another reason why Moore will probably never get credentials as a “progressive,” let alone a “radical.” Overall, that he has entered with a burst of applause (at Cannes, twenty minutes worth) into the mainstream media world and become its bad boy darling is enough to discredit Moore in the eyes of many leftists whose ideas are marginalized within mainstream political discourse.

We don’t connect Moore to leftist politics to expand the parameters of what it means to be “left.” Rather, we seek to problematize a troubling undercurrent of many sectors of the left that are embedded in Moore’s approach. Simply, we think Michael Moore is a white nationalist. And his white nationalist approach is what connects the self-professed liberal to the institutionalized left regardless if the latter takes Moore seriously or not."
personally,i think these guys are nuts :crazy: :silly: :eyes:

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 02:15 PM
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1. Couldn't make it through the second paragraph....
Incoherent babbling alert! :crazy:
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Kipling Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 02:21 PM
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2. What a load of crap.
Honestly. I just could not get the point. I understood what he was saying, it just had absolutely nothing to do with reality.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:24 PM
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3. Guess they never watched Roger & Me
It's true that Moore is more concerned with class issues than with race issues. So what? He tries over and over again to make the point that race is an issue used to divide working class people. In fact, a large part of Bowling for Columbine and F-911 is directed toward making that point.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:27 PM
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4. .
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:19 PM
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5. Eh, all right, I read the whole thing.
I can see what he's driving at, but it's not MM's fault. and he won't get much traction that way. This guys view is parochial. It is true that the USA is and always has been a racist culture, and that you marinate in it just by living here, but that is not MM's fault, and MM, whatever he may have absorbed in the nature of racist attitudes, is the wrong guy to attack. He should probably drop all the bullshit about "leftists" too, racism has doodle to do with left-right issues. Racism is racism, it is it's own dialog independent from issues of political an economic democracy, though not totally unrelated.
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