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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:48 PM
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All the President's Votes?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1013-01.htm

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The question is whether the country will come to its senses before elections start getting distorted or tampered with on such a scale that the system becomes unmanageable. The sheer volume of money offered under HAVA is unlikely to be forthcoming again in a hurry, so if things aren't done right now it is doubtful the system can be fixed again for a long time. "This is frightening, really frightening," says Dr Mercuri, and a growing number of reasonable people are starting to agree with her. One such is John Zogby, arguably the most reliable pollster in the United States, who has freely admitted he "blew" last November's elections and does not exclude the possibility that foul play was one of the factors knocking his calculations off course. "We're plowing into a brave new world here," he says, "where there are so many variables aside from out-and-out corruption that can change elections, especially in situations where the races are close. We have machines that break down, or are tampered with, or are simply misunderstood. It's a cause for great concern."
Roxanne Jekot, who has put much of her professional and personal life on hold to work on the issue full time, puts it even more strongly. "Corporate America is very close to running this country. The only thing that is stopping them from taking total control are the pesky voters. That's why there's such a drive to control the vote. What we're seeing is the corporatization of the last shred of democracy.
"I feel that unless we stop it here and stop it now," she says, "my kids won't grow up to have a right to vote at all."
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 04:59 PM
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1. Even Zogby is hinting at corruption
If if walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quaks like a duck...
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 05:18 PM
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2. Andrew told me Zogby was VERY suspicious
This story is excellent because it has so many facets of people involved in it - experts, educators, citizens, pollsters, politicians - all starting to see that we have a very serious problem on our hands.

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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 06:16 PM
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3. What can we do?
This is frightening.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 10:47 AM
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4. spread the word and watchdog your county
Find out who makes the decisions for voting in your county and send them info. Let them know they are accountable.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:38 PM
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5. Holy robbed elections Batman this is scary as hell.
Edited on Tue Oct-14-03 01:51 PM by benfranklin1776
The very essence of our democracy is at stake here. It is long past time for legislation on the subject which outlaws these "trade secret" contracts. All election software and hardware must be subject to strict certification and scrutiny procedures, in addition to a requirement that there be a verifiable audit trail. Certainly many of the conservo-Rethugs would try to block such legislation but enough public concern could be generated to build a bipartisan coalition since this is not a Democratic or Republican issue but a preservation of democracy issue.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 03:59 AM
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6. This article got into the UK Independent
Which gives me a good excuse to give this story some :kick:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=452972
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:30 PM
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7. kick
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 03:32 AM
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8. I'll second that
:kick:
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