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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:10 PM
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Harold Pinter's Nobel acceptance speech: video and text
http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture.html

The first quarter is about his plays; after that Reagan and Bush get both barrels. Nicaragua, Iraq (including a call to send Blair to the International Criminal Court), and an offer to becoem a speechwriter for Bush:

'God is good. God is great. God is good. My God is good. Bin Laden's God is bad. His is a bad God. Saddam's God was bad, except he didn't have one. He was a barbarian. We are not barbarians. We don't chop people's heads off. We believe in freedom. So does God. I am not a barbarian. I am the democratically elected leader of a freedom-loving democracy. We are a compassionate society. We give compassionate electrocution and compassionate lethal injection. We are a great nation. I am not a dictator. He is. I am not a barbarian. He is. And he is. They all are. I possess moral authority. You see this fist? This is my moral authority. And don't you forget it.'
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:35 PM
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1. I am completely awestruck
I just finished watching it in full on Swedish television and need some time to digest it. I however feels that his remark about the US bases and Sweden as the honorable exception is off the mark.

The remark is factually correct but false in a wider sense. Maybe Mr. Pinter included the remark as a misguided sign of gratitude but I put forward that Sweden (and the rest of the EU) is guilty of the very same sickening compliancy towards the US that Mr. Pinter attribute to his native country.

Frankly, I don´t know which one is worse, perpetrating the acts described or approving with them silently.

Sweden also has become, a "bleating little lamb tagging behind it on a lead", pathetic and supine and we more than ever needs to stand firm against the "vast tapestry of lies" and the peddlers of it.

Mr. Pinter's lecture leaves me feeling a bit depressed but his point that, "thousands, if not millions, of people in the United States itself are demonstrably sickened, shamed and angered by their government's actions, but as things stand they are not a coherent political force – yet.", still leaves some room for hope.

If you have not yet watched it please do so at http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture.html. It is 46 minutes well spent!
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:58 PM
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2. truth n/t
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confuddled Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:05 PM
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3. Thank you. n/t
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:47 AM
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4. The Guardian
now has the speech in its entirety as well:

http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1661516,00.html
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:58 AM
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5. listen to this man speak the truth

The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It's a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.

I put to you that the United States is without doubt the greatest show on the road. Brutal, indifferent, scornful and ruthless it may be but it is also very clever. As a salesman it is out on its own and its most saleable commodity is self love. It's a winner. Listen to all American presidents on television say the words, 'the American people', as in the sentence, 'I say to the American people it is time to pray and to defend the rights of the American people and I ask the American people to trust their president in the action he is about to take on behalf of the American people.'

It's a scintillating stratagem. Language is actually employed to keep thought at bay. The words 'the American people' provide a truly voluptuous cushion of reassurance. You don't need to think. Just lie back on the cushion. The cushion may be suffocating your intelligence and your critical faculties but it's very comfortable. This does not apply of course to the 40 million people living below the poverty line and the 2 million men and women imprisoned in the vast gulag of prisons, which extends across the US.
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:18 AM
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6. I watched it last night
A very impressive polemic, delivered by a master.

It was a very moving address and it made a big impression on me. I was hoping it would have some impact but the BBC didn't mention it on the Today prog nor did they see fit to report Lord Steyn's declaration that Blair is open to charges as a war criminal for allowing the 'rendition' kidnappings.
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twenty4blackbirds Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:18 AM
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10. 'impressive polemic...'
maybe that is why they didn't show it...:tinfoilhat:
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julianer Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:34 AM
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12. It was shown twice on MoreFour
on Wednesday but a British Nobel Prize winners acceptance speech is not really news for the intimidated BBC.
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:29 AM
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13. Mind you
Channel 4 could have made one of its airings on the main terrestrial channel, I think.

A very apt letter to the Guardian this morning makes the same point about the gutless BBC. What did Newsnight think was more important on Wednesday evening? David Campbell, wasn't it?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:57 PM
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7. Mighty Pen, Powerful Words! Must Watch!
Thank you for the link. :cry:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:02 PM
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8. Thank you Mr. Pinter nm
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 11:17 PM
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9. Powerfully true.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 12:40 AM
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11. Harold Pinter has signed the WorldCantWait call statement:
Your government, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

Your government is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

Your government puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

Your government is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

Your government suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

Your government is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

Your government enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

<snip>

The point is this: history is full of examples where people who had right on their side fought against tremendous odds and were victorious. And it is also full of examples of people passively hoping to wait it out, only to get swallowed up by a horror beyond what they ever imagined. The future is unwritten. WHICH ONE WE GET IS UP TO US.

The World Can't Wait! Drive Out the Bush Regime!


http://www.worldcantwait.net/

Other signatories include Alice Walker, Howard Zinn, Gore Vidal, Kurt Vonnegut, Leonard Weinglass,
Cornel West, Studs Terkel, Martin Sheen, Cindy Sheehan.... Ed Asner.

This outfit needs to raise $40,000 for an ad in the NY Times and another $160,000 to finance an office and massive demonstrations in DC in late January.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:05 PM
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14. A most powerful speech.
He may not have liked this term, but I hope the American People wake up and just as importantly, I hope the American People will and can redeem themselves.
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Uncle Roy Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 05:26 PM
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15. "Language is actually employed to keep thought at bay."
Very astute! Look at the mind-numbing bromides "weapons of mass destruction", and "the insurgents", and "the terrorists". The mind shuts off. Rational debate becomes impossible.

It is, indeed, a scintillating stratagem.
"It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn't happening. It didn't matter. It was of no interest."

Reality itself disappears...

As the senior White House official said to Ron Suskind, back in 2002:
"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Megalomania? Truth?

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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 07:08 PM
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16. I have the video and text up here in Flash and WMV
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 07:11 PM by dutchdemocrat
I have the video up (I converted the RealMedia file) into Flash 8 and downloadable as a WMV file from here

http://www.chris-floyd.com/pinter/

It's a tribute page of sorts. Please spread the word. It's important that people see this video or read the speech and they are both on this page.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/pinter/

Cheers

DD.
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