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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 10:44 AM
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'I loved every minute in Iraq' (British 'weekend warriors' in Basra)
Edited on Fri Dec-09-05 10:45 AM by Barrett808
As Britain's TA faces unprecedented demands, Jessica Jonzen talks to a group of part-time soldiers who have just returned from the front line in Basra

'We are well-trained, highly disciplined fighting machines, ready for war. We're just not available during the week." The Territorial Army has long been the subject of gentle mockery, as this quote from Gareth Keenan, David Brent's war-obsessed deputy in the BBC comedy The Office proves. The popular perception is of a boys' club for "weekend warriors" - who aren't actually much good at real soldiering.

But things have been changing recently. The 40,000-strong TA now forms 25 per cent of the British Army, while 15,000 of the 80,000 soldiers deployed to Iraq since 2003 have been from the TA.

And that number is set to increase. Earlier this week the Government announced that a further 800 TA soldiers were being called up to serve in Iraq in the spring - prompting the Tories to criticise Tony Blair for "placing an over-reliance on reservists".

There are worries that the growing pressures on Territorials and the reality of conflict - five of the British troops' 98 casualties in Iraq have come from the TA - are having a damaging effect. Over 6,000 part-time soldiers have quit in the past year, leaving the TA with its lowest ever manning levels.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/12/09/ftbasra09.xml&sSheet=/arts/2005/12/09/ixtop.html

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:49 AM
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1. I worked with a guy that was a combat vet from Viet Nam...
he claims he loved it there and if he could he would go right back into the bush.

That statement scared the living shit out of me.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:56 AM
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2. these are the kind of guys who think torture is A-OK
:puke:
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:37 PM
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3. some soldiers do ...
That's where mercenary outfits like Sandline and Blackwater get some of their employees from.

There are ex-military people who really miss the organization and certainty of (peacetime) armed forces life -- members of my own family have reported this.

And then there are others who miss ... other things. Recruiters in armies which do a lot of peacekeeping missions try to screen this element out, but in time of conflict (or when recruits are hard to get) someone who is there specifically to learn how to use weapons ... and wants to keep doing it ... may be hard to refuse.

While most of the people who undergo military training put it behind them once they leave the service (and I know plenty of professional soldiers, even those who were in commando or special forces type operations, who have made quite sure that acquaintances would not suspect them of being "that sort of person") -- I always wonder what becomes of some of them, years down the line. We already know that people trained by the US, e.g. in Afghanistan, later ended up turning against their former supporter, and using their experience at ambushes and bomb-making.

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