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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:15 AM
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(on NSA) 'A Small Editorial' from the 'Cryptography Mailing List' mod
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This mailing list is putatively about cryptography and cryptography politics, though we do tend to stray quite a bit into security issues of all sorts, and sometimes into the activities of the agency with the biggest crypto and sigint budget in the world, the NSA.

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The President claims he has the prerogative to order such surveillance. The law unambiguously disagrees with him.

There are minor exceptions in the law, but they clearly do not apply in this case. They cover only the 15 days after a declaration of war by congress, a period of 72 hours prior to seeking court authorization (which was never sought), and similar exceptions that clearly are not germane.

There is no room for doubt or question about whether the President has the prerogative to order surveillance without asking the FISC -- even if the FISC is a toothless organization that never turns down requests, it is a federal crime, punishable by up to five years imprisonment, to conduct electronic surveillance against US citizens without court authorization.

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Our President has chosen to declare himself above the law, a dangerous precedent that could do great harm to our country.  However, without substantial effort on the part of you, and I mean you, every person reading this, nothing much is going to happen.  The rule of law will continue to decay in our country. Future Presidents will claim even greater extralegal authority, and our nation will fall into despotism. I mean that sincerely. For the sake of yourself, your children and your children's children, you cannot allow this to stand.

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reproduced - http://cryptome.org/small-call.htm
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:18 AM
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1. The "rule of law" was jettisoned long ago.
It is the pretense of "rule of law" that is now under threat.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:26 AM
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2. what will we tell our children?
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 09:35 AM by bpilgrim
Saxby Chambliss : United States Senator for Georgia was just on cspan try'n to cover for the WH by saying that sometimes the processes is too slow and the prez is legally able to act under such circumstances. of course he doesn't mention the fact that they NEVER sought a judicial warrant.

glad the pro's are on top of this clear & present danger :bounce:

thanks for sharing :toast:

peace
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