group for 4 years now and we were posting this every where we could...msn , yahoo, aol message boards and chat rooms...everywhere..and we were laughed at..the * cabal of propagandists that this admin paid to post in chat rooms and message boards..laughed at us and called all these articles not credible...well i have maintained all these articles in my files..for this day...but i won't count on msm ever outting themselves on this ...but it makes on wonder how if little ole me and my internet group could have worked so hard to get this info out to americans..where was any media whatsoever on this...well we knopw those answers..they are bought and paid for by the *cabal" and have been from the get go...and for the nyt to say now we didn't know if this story was creduble..well the lady was arrested and tried.. in england..and they didn't think the story was credible..,hell it was in asia times..and the aussie papers and french papers and german papers...as well as the british..
but how could the nyt or post cover this when their front pages were filled with judy miller bullshit!! and propaganda for war...
give me a break nyt and post and la times...you are what you are ..nothing but propagandists..for the destruction of our republic and democracy!!
The Observer | International | Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,905899,00.html Revealed: US dirty tricks to win vote on Iraq war
Secret document details American plan to bug phones and emails of key Security Council members
Read the memo
Talk about it: dirty tricks?
Martin Bright, Ed Vulliamy in New York and Peter Beaumont
Sunday March 2, 2003
The Observer
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The United States is conducting a secret 'dirty tricks' campaign against UN Security Council delegations in New York as part of its battle to win votes in favour of war against Iraq.
Details of the aggressive surveillance operation, which involves interception of the home and office telephones and the emails of UN delegates in New York, are revealed in a document leaked to The Observer.
The disclosures were made in a memorandum written by a top official at the National Security Agency - the US body which intercepts communications around the world - and circulated to both senior agents in his organisation and to a friendly foreign intelligence agency asking for its input.
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The leaked memorandum makes clear that the target of the heightened surveillance efforts are the delegations from Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Mexico, Guinea and Pakistan at the UN headquarters in New York - the so-called 'Middle Six' delegations whose votes are being fought over by the pro-war party, led by the US and Britain, and the party arguing for more time for UN inspections, led by France, China and Russia.
The memo is directed at senior NSA officials and advises them that the agency is 'mounting a surge' aimed at gleaning information not only on how delegations on the Security Council will vote on any second resolution on Iraq, but also 'policies', 'negotiating positions', 'alliances' and 'dependencies' - the 'whole gamut of information that could give US policymakers an edge in obtaining results favourable to US goals or to head off surprises'.
Dated 31 January 2003, the memo was circulated four days after the UN's chief weapons inspector Hans Blix produced his interim report on Iraqi compliance with UN resolution 1441.
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The language and content of the memo were judged to be authentic by three former intelligence operatives shown it by The Observer. We were also able to establish that Frank Koza does work for the NSA and could confirm his senior post in the Regional Targets section of the organisation.
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another of the articles we posted over and over and were called liars!! i had in my files..i kept all this stuff ..so if you ever need it ..it may take time for me to find it..but i have it all!! fly
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4807339-107982,00.html Ex-GCHQ official accused of spy leak says she was trying to prevent war
Richard Norton-Taylor
Friday November 28, 2003
Guardian
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A former GCHQ official exposed an American plan to eavesdrop on members of the UN security council, to try to prevent an illegal war leading to the deaths of British soldiers and Iraqi civilians, magistrates were told yesterday.
Katharine Gun intends to deny breaching the Official Secrets Act, because she disclosed the information out of necessity.
Mrs Gun, 29, from Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, appeared at Bow Street magistrates court in central London where her counsel, Ben Emmerson QC, said the case raised important issues of law and disclosure.
He said GCHQ had imposed limits on what instructions she could give her defence lawyers, an action which was attacked by Amnesty International for being in breach of her human rights.
In a move which required the consent of Lord Goldsmith, the attorney general, Mrs Gun was charged two weeks ago, eight months after she was arrested. She was sacked from her job as a GCHQ translator in June.
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