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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:28 PM
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PAUL KRUGMAN: Authentic? Never Mind
Rich liberals who claim they’ll help America’s less fortunate are phonies.

Let me give you one example — a Democrat who said he’d work on behalf of workers and the poor. He even said he’d take on Big Business. But the truth is that while he was saying those things, he was living in a big house and had a pretty lavish summer home too. His favorite recreation, sailing, was incredibly elitist. And he didn’t talk like a regular guy.

Clearly, this politician wasn’t authentic. His name? Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Luckily, that’s not how the political game was played 70 years ago. F.D.R. wasn’t accused of being a phony; he was accused of being a “traitor to his class.” But today, it seems, politics is all about seeming authentic. A recent Associated Press analysis of the political scene asked: “Can you fake authenticity? Probably not, but it might be worth a try.”

What does authenticity mean? Supposedly it means not pretending to be who you aren’t. But that definition doesn’t seem to fit the way the term is actually used in political reporting.

For example, the case of F.D.R. shows that there’s nothing inauthentic, in the normal sense of the word, about calling for higher taxes on the rich while being rich yourself. If anything, it’s to your credit if you advocate policies that will hurt your own financial position. But the news media seem to find it deeply disturbing that John Edwards talks about fighting poverty while living in a big house......

http://freedemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/06/paul-krugman-authentic-never-mind.html
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:34 PM
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1. BTW, who is that anti-union man Hillary hired as her campaign advisor?
Hillary should be smarter than that. Friend of the workers indeed...
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:36 PM
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3. mark penn
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:51 PM
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6. I didn't know that Gore had fired him in 2000.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:43 PM
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4. Mark Penn's personal beliefs re unions are not known - but if you have a source that
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 10:43 PM by papau
reveals those beliefs please post it.

The CEO is hired in to do a job - that job does not include kicking the current clients to the curb.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:00 PM
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7. I'm asking a question about Krugman's article. Maybe you should ask Krugman instead of me?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:08 PM
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11. I commented on the Krugman article when it was first posted - I really like Paul but this
time he produced a sloppy analysis - in my opinion -

The Mark Penn detail is in the response lower down in this thread.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:04 PM
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8. Big article in The Nation in the last couple of weeks.
Called "Hillary Inc.". And TPM had some big excerpts from it.

Mark Penn was brought into the Clinton White House by Dick Morris, who was brought in by Hillary. And Penn is not just a CEO, but a major union busting consultant. He has all sorts of DLC ties, and represents PHARMA, Exxon-Mobil, etc., All the major funders of the DLC and Repukes.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:06 PM
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10. What a load of BS - Mark Penn is no union buster - 20 months ago he was named CEO of
Burson-Marsteller, a techie pollster heading a major PR firm. In 1977 he started his polling firm Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates which he is President of.

In 1996 Morris needed better polling and hired his firm - Penn is the pollster/adviser for Tony Blair.

Where Morris made a name as a person that did a very "granular" analysis, Penn made his name as a branding and competitive marketing guru - his specialty is corporate research and positioning of product - framing the discussion with the correct words and approaching the correct audience., A while back he did a job for AT&T on how to grow in a market where everyone has a phone and a carrier - how to grow by taking away customers from MCI by targeting uncommitted customers, the business equivalent of seeking out swing voters.

He was Hillary's pollster in 2000 - and thank goodness she has him back for the sake of her campaign. I do not yet have a horse in this race - but I hate when nonsense is thrown out - even if the throwing out is from lack of knowledge rather than trying to smear someone.

The Nation's anti-Hillary slant, and TPM's pro-Obama slant, do not, in my mind, justify trying to convey a distorted picture of the people around Hillary.

The only true item is the so what fact - in my opinion - that Penn has done a great deal of work for the DLC folks - and is a believer in showcasing foreign policy strength, toughness, and determination. But then everyone running other than DK and Gravel is into showing foreign policy strength.

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:35 PM
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2. FDR would be concider 'unelectable; today and people would just not concider him
because they assumed he was unelectable. How sad.
His wealth would not be what would hold him back but his disability. People would write him off, pundits would talk about it all the time so voters would think maybe he should not be concidered a legit candidate because of this.
authentic is an overused word. Bush was concidered authentic. Gore was not. Politicians have to get elected and therefore must put on a good face. the fact that FDR was really like he was in public is a testament to the personality of a larger than life man.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:25 PM
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9. "Authentic" = Looks Good on TV
and you can only look good on TV if the people running the TV network WANT you to look good on TV.
Otherwise you're gonna look TERRRIBLE!


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:17 PM
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13. wouldn't shtupping Lucy Mercer cancel out the wheelchair?
I give him manly points for screwing around even though he couldn't walk.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:50 PM
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5. I Love Krugman - But I Think This Is Bullshit
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 10:53 PM by MannyGoldstein
FDR was a flaming Liberal for many years before he became President. So Liberal that he was shunned by the Democratic Party as being a kook. They only ran him as a desperation move to stave off the Communist Party.

Also, I've visited his summer home in Canada - not very big at all.

We need to look at voting records, not the rhetoric du jour. The record showed that Roosevelt was the Real Deal - which is why he was able to save the US.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 06:10 PM
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12. I agree :-)
:-)
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