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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:59 AM
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NYT Editorial Observer: JUST WHAT THE FOUNDERS FEARED: AN IMPERIAL PRESIDENT GOES TO WAR
Editorial Observer
Just What the Founders Feared: An Imperial President Goes to War
By ADAM COHEN
Published: July 23, 2007

....The founders were particularly wary of giving the president power over war. They were haunted by Europe’s history of conflicts started by self-aggrandizing kings. John Jay, the first chief justice of the United States, noted in Federalist No. 4 that “absolute monarchs will often make war when their nations are to get nothing by it, but for the purposes and objects merely personal.”...

....When they drafted the Constitution, Madison and his colleagues wrote their skepticism into the text. In Britain, the king had the authority to declare war, and raise and support armies, among other war powers. The framers expressly rejected this model and gave these powers not to the president, but to Congress.

The Constitution does make the president “commander in chief,” a title President Bush often invokes. But it does not have the sweeping meaning he suggests. The framers took it from the British military, which used it to denote the highest-ranking official in a theater of battle. Alexander Hamilton emphasized in Federalist No. 69 that the president would be “nothing more” than “first general and admiral,” responsible for “command and direction” of military forces.

The founders would have been astonished by President Bush’s assertion that Congress should simply write him blank checks for war. They gave Congress the power of the purse so it would have leverage to force the president to execute their laws properly. Madison described Congress’s control over spending as “the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.”...

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The Constitution cannot enforce itself. It is, as the constitutional scholar Edwin Corwin famously observed, an “invitation to struggle” among the branches, but the founders wisely bequeathed to Congress some powerful tools for engaging in the struggle. It is no surprise that the current debate over a deeply unpopular war is arising in the context of a Congressional spending bill. That is precisely what the founders intended....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/23/opinion/23mon4.html?hp
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:12 AM
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1. Very good article. We have the House and we have the power. Now
all we have to do is get our Dems to use it.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:22 AM
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2. Yes. I think the piece makes the historical point very well --
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 10:22 AM by DeepModem Mom
and then urges those with the power given to them by the Founders to use it.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:35 AM
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3. Mybe this article should be emailed - sent to our reps?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:38 AM
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4. Not a bad idea! Think I'll send some e-mails their way. nt
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:31 PM
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5. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread DeepModemMom.
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