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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:35 AM
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Dave Lindorff: Martial Law Threat is Real: Lucky that the Military is Breaking Down
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Martial Law Threat is Real: Lucky that the Military is Breaking Down
Submitted by dlindorff on Fri, 2007-07-27 15:17. General Discussion

By Dave Lindorff

The looming collapse of the US military in Iraq, of which a number of generals and former generals, including former Chief of Staff Colin Powell, have warned, is happening none too soon, as it my be the best hope for preventing military rule here at home.

From the looks of things, the Bush/Cheney regime has been working assiduously to pave the way for a declaration of military rule, such that at this point it really lacks only the pretext to trigger a suspension of Constitutional government. They have done this with the active support of Democrats in Congress, though most of the heavy lifting was done by the last, Republican-led Congress.

The first step, or course, was the first Authorization for Use of Military Force, passed in September 2001, which the president has subsequently used to claim—improperly, but so what? —that the whole world, including the US, is a battlefield in a so-called “War” on Terror, and that he has extra-Constitutional unitary executive powers to ignore laws passed by Congress. As constitutional scholar and former Reagan-era associate deputy attorney general Bruce Fein observes, that one claim, that the US is itself a battlefield, is enough to allow this or some future president to declare martial law, “since you can always declare martial law on a battlefield. All he’d need would be a pretext, like another terrorist attack inside the U.S.”

The 2001 AUMF was followed by the PATRIOT Act, passed in October 2001, which undermined much of the Bill of Rights. Around the same time, the president began a campaign of massive spying on Americans by the National Security Agency, conducted without any warrants or other judicial review. It was and remains a program that is clearly aimed at American dissidents and at the administration’s political opponents, since the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court would never have raised no objections to spying on potential terrorists. (And it, and other government spying programs, have resulted in the government’s having a list now of some 325,000 “suspected terrorists”!)

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It has to be a plus that National Guard and Reserve units are on their third and sometimes fourth deployments to Iraq, and are fuming at the abuse. It has to be a plus that active duty troops are refusing to re-enlist in droves—especially mid-level officers.

If we are headed for martial law, better that it be with a broken military. Maybe if it’s broken badly enough, the administration will be afraid to test the idea.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:39 AM
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1. Apparently David doesn't get out much. Has he heard of privatized armies?
n/t
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:24 PM
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10. exactly.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:42 AM
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2. However you shouldn't forget
the likes of Blackwater and Dyncorp whose apes are tooled up and trained to do the job.
x(
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:04 AM
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4. These "so-called" private armies are just that "so-called"
they can't even controll Baghdad, much less Iraq,, and you want someone to seriously consider that they could control the American populas?,,, their a bunch of wannabes, armed, I grant you but still wannabes
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:25 PM
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11. 180,000 armed soldiers doing whatever they are told to do. with no legal
responsibility to the US...
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 04:48 PM
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12. Those private armies sure as hell were responsible for killing a lot of people during Katrina
They were the ones shooting at people, and forcing people to stay on bridges until they were totally dehydrated, and some died.

The private army is composed of wingnuts and gun nuts, who are just itching to kill and bully. THEY are the ones who are the enemy's army here.

:kick:
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:28 PM
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17. And I remember reading on DU months ago that * has
many of them in addition to the secret service.They travel with him.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:47 AM
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3. Be careful
Some on DU will call you a kook and claim you're undermining DU for posting these kinds of articles.

I should know, it happened to me.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:06 PM
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6. I think the term they like to use is Tinfoil Hat it's a Republican term as well.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:19 PM
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7. I was called a kook
I prefer tinfoil hat though.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:27 PM
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8. Least we aren't sheep. I think that's a good comeback.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:12 PM
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9. I know that happens and it has happened to me, too.
Thanks for the warning. I prefer to read something and think it's kooky than not to have had the opportunity to read it at all.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:02 PM
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5. This Administration is calling Martial Law.
Continuity of Government.


Kick and Nom


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:53 AM
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19. Bush & Cheney put Continuity Of Government in play on September 11.
Emergency" Secret Government was put into place on September 11. People deemed expert and necessary were evacuated from Washington DC to a secret underground mountain in West Virginia where they had the command and control infrastructure needed to keep the government operating.

The thing is, this thing was so secret it was exclusive to the point no Democrats knew about it or were evacuated. Seriously, the neo-CONs wanted a Secret Government to take over and they DIDN'T let the Democrats know about it. Tom Daschle at the time said he was "surprised."

I'll say. Trent Lott and Dick Armey said it was ready, "In case of terror attack."

They wouldn't forget the DEMs on purpose, those giving Bush the benefit of the doubt say. So, yeah, I'm certain it was an accident. Yeah. Sure.



Government Gone Underground

EXCERPT...

Constitutional Implications of the Secret Government

In fact, the most troubling questions about the "shadow government" are not it's precise location or it's capabilities; not the actual personnel assigned to survive or how that will be achieved. The most troubling questions are why the Bush administration felt compelled to keep Cheney and other cabinet officials rotating in and out of these secure facilities, preserving the executive branch of course, but without advising the Congress to reactivate their Bunker underneath the posh Greenbrier resort in West Virginia, or giving the Judiciary advice to take their similar precautions. Nevertheless, the Greenbrier bunker remains both a tourist attraction and an historical oddity.

Moreover, serious questions are raised about the supergrade government officials, and the GS-14 and GS-15s assigned to Mount Weather as "Shadow Cabinet" officials. Certainly, the actual cabinet went through their confirmation hearings in the Senate; however, until March 1, not even senior Senate officials in Bush's own party were even aware that such extensive "continuity of government" preparations were in effect, much less had they been provided the opportunity to publicly "advise and consent" to their shadow nomination.

The National Archives has the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence ensconced in airtight, fireproof containers ready to descend into their own bunkers should any threat be detected. The Bush administration has shown much less interest in preserving the meaning and intent of the documents with their COG plans.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) has also said as much. Surprised by the Washington Post's revelations, on Meet the Press he said that "I think the time has come for us to be asking a lot more questions." On Fox he was more actually more direct. Daschle stated that the Bush administration has a "constitutional obligation" to provide Congress with information and explained "that's the thing. You'd think somebody in Congress, one person in Congress somewhere, would know what they're doing and how many there are and what their role is and how the transition takes place and why a congressional and judiciary component are not included. Those are the kind of things I'm simply asking that we be provided the answers to."

SNIP...

If even RAND believes that managing congressional "sensitivities" are important in preserving constitutional government and protections, why had the Bush administration been completely silent on the matter for six months? Why, while Ashcroft's FBI routinely announces amorphous threats of further terrorist attacks, was the survivability of the federal branch most accountable to the citizens conspicuously ignored? Why, amid constant reports of Cheney's unavailability, did Congress not think to ask where he was and what he was doing? And also, just what are these bunkered bureaucrats up to?

CONTINUED BIG TREASON ...

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/18984



Speak of the Devils…



Coup d'Etat in America?

by Michel Chossudovsky

EXCERPT...

A secret "Shadow government" under the classified "Continuity of Operations Plan" was installed on September 11, 2001.(See http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A20584-2002Feb... ). Known internally as "Continuity of Government" or COG, the secret Shadow government would become functional in the case of a red code alert, redeploying key staff to secret locations.

Code red alert would, according to FEMA, also preclude and repress any form of public gathering or citizens' protest which questions the legitimacy of the emergency procedures and the installation of a police state. The emergency authorities would also exert tight censorship over the media and would no doubt paralyze the alternative news media on the internet.

Code red alert would trigger the "civilian" Homeland Emergency response system. The latter is already in place including DHS Ready.Gov instructions, the Big Brother Citizen Corps, not to mention the USAonWatch or Neighborhood Watch Program which has a mandate to "identify and report suspicious activity in neighborhoods" across America.

CONTINUED...

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO407B.html



Things could be worse, I guess. In REX 84, during Ollie North-John Poindexter-Robert McFarlane-Jim Baker-Poppy Bush-Iran-Contra days, the plan was to activate and deputize citizen armies -- including the Michigan Militia. These would do the dirty work of rounding up resistors and Patriots.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:04 PM
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13. But Blackwater and other mercenary forces are not broken. (eom)
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:29 AM
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14. not only are they not broken, they're growing by leaps and bounds . . .
they have a huge training facility somewhere down south (North Carolina?), and are attempting to purchase land for another in California . . . this may be the scariest part of the whole martial law scenario because of the kind of individual mercenary armies tend to attract . . .
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Knightly_Knews Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:39 AM
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15. Their huge compound...
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 05:49 AM by Knightly_Knews
is located roughly 20 miles from my home..It is located in Moyock, North Carolina. And yes it's huge.. They are one of the largest employers in this area. And they are training for urban assault and mass riot control. They have fake towns built in their compound that resemble Anytown USA, they have a full scale high school built there for training.. They have school buses that they use for training..

Trust me on this, these guys are scary.. And I am asking questions daily about their operations... Last year I was followed by these thugs after I started investigating Mr. Erik Prince.

Go check out their affiliate "Borelli Consulting" and read their Logo.. It has the crosshairs pointing at the scales of Justice that reads, "On The Front Lines At Home".. Explain that to me. They felt that they needed to provide an explanation for their logo, which I do not buy!
http://www.borelliconsulting.com/

Good luck boys and girls, this is coming to a town near you soon. Be Prepared.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 11:09 PM
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18. Book on Blackwater
Jeremy Scahill wrote a book about Blackwater. the web page is here-

http://www.blackwaterbook.com/

Scahill talks about BW on Nation news here-

http://www.blackwaterbook.com/news/2007/03/blackwater_auth.html

They not only have their hdqtrs in NC, they're also building sites near Chicago and San Diego.

and, yeah, Prince's company very well could be the brownshirts for Bush. Hitler (sorry if some don't like the inference, but this is a historical reference to private armies) had the brownshirts before he took power and suspended the constitution.

another interesting factoid- when Cheney was sec. of defense for Bush Sr. he commissioned Halliburton to do a study on privatization of the military...and then of course, he worked for them, and then, of course, he gave them no-bid contracts in Iraq.

btw, Blackwater, not the military, was in charge of protection for Bremer...and he's another christofascist.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:12 PM
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16. What's scary is that an asshole like Erik Prince of "Blackwater"
and his private military company Army. That is suppling 150,000 mercenaries in Iraq, may be running the country, with the likes of Gary Bauer,who with Edgar Prince, (Erik Prince's father), helped to start the (James Dobson incorporated) Family Research Council, the fundamentalist lobbying group and think-tank.


Erik Prince


Gary Bauer


Guess who the neo-conservatives would support?


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