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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:07 AM
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McClatchy: Bush, aides 'grossly misjudged Putin' (assumed Putin embraced Democracy)


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/v-print/story/20508.html

Bush, aides 'grossly misjudged Putin'

Jonathan S. Landay | McClatchy Newspapers

last updated: October 12, 2007 07:46:56 PM

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration's failure to win Russia's consent to install U.S. missile defenses in its European backyard and a growing list of other disputes suggest that President Bush and his aides have misread the man whose "soul" Bush thought he'd divined when they first met six years ago.

Bush's strategy on Russia assumed that Russian President Vladimir Putin embraced democracy, wanted integration with the West and sought a "strategic partnership" in which Moscow would acquiesce to U.S. policies such as NATO expansion. Feuds could be resolved through the close personal relationship that Bush believed he had with his Russian counterpart.

Instead, fueled by record oil and natural gas prices and resentment of what he lambasted in February as Bush's "almost uncontained hyper use of force," Putin has led global opposition to the U.S. war in Iraq, hosted Palestinians on the U.S. list of terrorist groups, sold anti-aircraft missiles and other arms to Iran and stymied Bush's drive to tighten U.N. sanctions on the Islamic republic for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.

The Kremlin has steadily increased spending on defense modernization and revived symbolic long-range aerial reconnaissance patrols toward U.S. and European airspace.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:14 AM
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1. Thank God for McClatchy .. they continue to report truth.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:29 AM
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6. BINGO
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:22 AM
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2. So Bush's style of governing from the gut based on his first impressions
might be a dangerously simplistic way to run a country? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:22 AM
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3. Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.
Putin understood our idiot pResidnet and used him when he could. Our idiot pResident on the other hand bought into Putin's act hook line and sinker.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:33 AM
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7. Bush got his advice from Condi. Explains a lot.
because she is truly an idiot.

A world class ice skater as a preteen? A world class pinnaner player as and adult? A world class provost installed by Exxon? A world class Russki expert? A world class Russki speaker? A world class security advisor who delibertately ignored Al Qaida? A world class diplmat?


Anyone seeing a pattern here?
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:27 AM
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4. Its amazing the Kremlin has anything left to spend
after America's democratization via Citigroup.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 07:29 AM
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5. I love the way they framed this story (wrong Assumptions by WH/Rice)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 08:52 AM
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8. What a load of horseshit. You think the Bushies "misjudged" his Soul Mate Comrade Putin?!?
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 08:54 AM by tom_paine
(this should not be construed as a personal insult to McClatchy. I think everyone here knows McClatchy is one of the few organzations that resemble a Free Press in Amerika, but this article is...)

If you buy that cart full of manure, I've got another one equally as ludicrous for you.

Hitler, aides 'grossly misjudged' Stalin.

Horseshit. These tyrants judged each other quite well, I think. Stalin's only mistake was believing for a minute that a tyrant and a liar like Hitler would keep his word, although in truth Stalin was likely planning to do the same thing to his Soul Mate Adolph at the first opportunity.

So it is likely with Bushler and Soul Mate Putin.

Allow me to say what I think once again of the lie that tries to sell one set of tyrants and murderers as being puzzled by the actions of their fellows tyrants and murderers:

HORSESHIT!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 09:17 AM
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10. I do think think therr was WH arrogance in assuming Putin wanted same things the US did.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 12:50 PM
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12. Stalin DID do Adolph at the first opportunity
While Hitler and his generals were screwing up the war in GB, Stalin reneged on their deal on the Baltic and overtook Lithuania. I think each knew the other quite well.

The problem this time around is of course that * is breathtakingly stupid as well as being evil.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 09:15 AM
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9. "Misjudged" my ass.
Bush overplayed his hand, and when you do that, you lose.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:56 AM
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11. And is anyone surprised that George the Lesser 'misjudged' Putin?


If so, please tell us just when the Texas Idiot - the one who is afraid of horses - has done anything successfully in his entire life. Oil co. ownership? Bailed by daddy's buds. Baseball team ownership? Once again, bailed out by poppy's friends. A career as an Air Farce pilot? Seems the Air Force has a problem with pilots who break their jet fighters. George broke two. Take offs were no trouble, he just had a problem with returning his aircraft to the ground in one piece. The second incident report said: Lt. Bush has a fear of flying. We recommend he be removed from flight status.

Well, said George. If I cant wear those shiny silver (pewter in George's case) wings, the hell with it. I'll just go home to daddy.

And how about that spotless academic career? Has anyone reading this ever seen a Masters level degree awarded to anyone with a GPA of 2.0? I thought not. In his case MBA stand for Mentally deficient, Brain impaired, and usually Absent.

I recently heard a Neurosurgeon describe Bush's problem as Mentis Careri syndrome. IOW, the ability to reason is absent. Sure seems to fit to me.

He looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. And the media took him seriously. Of course, to most of us who had studied George, our reaction was: "Poor George. He's babbling again. Poppy really should take him home."
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 03:38 PM
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13. just one more in pharmaceuticl speak "adverse reaction" to the invasion of Iraq
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 04:10 PM
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14. Bush's aides are gossly incompetent more like it!
AND IT DOES STOP AT PUTIN!
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