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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:17 AM
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Will jobs move back to US from India?
20 Oct. 2007

On October 30, Cisco chairman John Chambers will be in Bangalore to unveil the San Jose-based company's $50 million campus that sprawls across 14 acres.

The integrated high-tech facility will be the new home for 3,000 Indian workers across R&D, IT, sales and customer support teams.

Compare this scenario with media reports over the summer that some Silicon Valley companies were starting to pull jobs back from Bangalore to the US.

The Wall Street Journal wrote on July 4 that firms such as Riya of San Mateo, Kana Software of Menlo Park and Teneros of Mountain Lakes have wound up their Indian operations and are moving engineers to the US, largely because of frustration over rising wages for Indian engineers and difficulties in retaining them.

Cisco and Riya present contrasting faces of the outsourcing business in India today. While large companies like Cisco, IBM and Accenture are expanding their operations; smaller Silicon Valley startups are finding it increasingly difficult to sustain their operations.

Outsourcing jobs to India is becoming difficult and expensive. Since January, the rupee has gained more than 11% against the dollar, eroding the cost advantage of Indian offshoring firms.

These firms now face wage inflation, high workforce attrition, paucity of talent and increased operational costs. Profits are down and the stock prices of Indian IT companies are falling; for the first nine months of this year while the Sensex rose by 32.47%, the BSE IT index fell by 13.08%.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Will_jobs_move_back_to_US_from_India/articleshow/2475757.cms
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:23 AM
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1. Here is your answer
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:26 AM
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2. I have a general manager who keeps bringing up outsourcing
He keeps wanting to send the jobs of the people that work for me to an Indian company. Several times over the last three years he has brought up the subject. Each time I have taken his request investigated it and researched other companies that have outsourced this type of work to India. Each time I have reported back to the manager with recommendations to keep our jobs here.
I have supported each time with evidence of poor quality work, difficulties in communicating needs and changes.
To date, I have successfully kept the outsourcing monster at bay. I am just waiting for this fad among high level management to end and we can get back to producing quality work in America with American pride.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:29 AM
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3. Also, a possibility.....
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:16 PM
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5. Maybe you need a new GM?
Maybe outsourcing is a good idea. There are probably many Indian managers well qualified to be general manager who would do the job for 1/4 the salary, perks, and benes. Perhaps the CEO or the company board would like to see a cost comparison on how much they could save if they outsourced the GM's job.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 02:29 PM
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6. His suggestions have been met by the employees with that sort of talk
Every time that comes up, I hear those working for me saying maybe he needs to be outsourced.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:28 AM
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11. good for you
as someone who regularly deals with overseas crap I cannot tell you how much they S U C K
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:38 AM
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4. they will only come back to the US if the dollar tanks and there is cheap labor
otherwise, they'll just dump India and goto, say, Mexico, as they're already starting to do because the price of Indian labor is increasing.
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reinhardt Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:28 PM
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8. Correct.. which is why the "dollar" is being tanked.
It is called "liquidation of labor".
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reinhardt Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:27 PM
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7. If you remember..


..the powers that be said if India didn't pay its Enron bills (Dabhol plant) it would put an end to foreign investment in the future.

The powers that be.. were acting.

And that is how foreign nation-building works.

Who really paid to upgrade India's energy and telecom infrastructure to allow outsourcing to begin with?

The ordinary citizen did.

Who will pay for Countrywide's gift to the minorities?

The middle. Because the middle is the biggest threat to the top.
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reinhardt Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:43 PM
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9. The following is a good site for an outsourcing barometer..
http://www.domain-b.com/infotech/itnews/index.html

Eventually everyone will work for free.  That is the goal, it
is just a matter of how long it will take to achieve it.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:55 PM
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10. Notice that there is nothing there about the poor quality of
customer service you got from outsourcing? They don't care. Given that fact and the fact that they're producing less and less of what I actually buy and a bunch of junk that I refuse to spend my money on I find myself buying less and less consumer goods.
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