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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:08 AM
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In, BUSH - A DARK LEGACY, Noria Antinoro writes an excellent piece.
Bush – A Dark Legacy
by Norla Antinoro

Bush’s America is not a new America. It is the dark America that the good fight has been opposing since the initial European invasion of this continent over two hundred years ago. It is the evil twin of the country so many of us wish we were, and want to remember as having once been, just before Bush took over.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:16 AM
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1. yes-The work of citizenship is a lifetime commitment.-



......By destroying credibility of America on the world stage, undermining the American dollar, wiping out the image of American soldiers as the saviors of the world and showing the world that they are instead a force to be feared, by undermining the very version of America that you and I spent our entire lives developing, George W. Bush has claimed his true legacy and given the corporate world what they wanted. If we started putting the pieces back together as fast as humanly possible the minute Bush leaves office, the corporations will still have at least a decade of freedom to claim unworthy, unearned profits at the expense of every man, woman and child in this country and the world.

Don’t look backward and yearn uselessly for a world that never was. Remember that the story of Camelot is a tragedy, not a musicale filled with love and laughter. It is the story of hope lost. Do not yearn backward for the light Bush extinguished. Instead, look within for the light you can bring to the world that we must restore and rebuild. Look to your neighbors for the strength of partnership to build the world we know we can bring to reality if we work together. The world that Kennedy challenged us to see. That Humphrey’s vision drew for us. The promise of America that leads the world not by force of arms, but by setting the standard, by being a model for the way things should be done. Democracy is spread through the world not by armies, but by allowing people to see how strong they can be when true freedom is within their grasp. Like the old Iron Curtain, tyrants will fall from their own internal rot without having to be struck down by armies. America does not need to lead the world by anything but example. If we become what we thought we were to begin with, we would regain the respect and affection we have lost at home and around the globe under the yoke of the Bush administration.

We were beginning to build. He took us backwards and broke the back of every positive movement we had painstakingly laid the foundations for. We must do the work again. And when we find ourselves once more, in the coming decades, at the leading edge of the growth and maturation of our people, we will have to work harder still to keep the swing of the pendulum from once more sweeping all of our gains back into the mire formed by complacency and greed.

The work of citizenship is a lifetime commitment. It is not something we can ever set aside. Allowing ourselves to be lulled into believing that we had done the work and were safe at last, we lost all of the gains we had struggled so hard to make. So we begin again and, this time, remember that the work continues as long as we breathe and walk the earth.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:20 PM
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11. Yes! The article by Norla Antinoro was indeed interesting and
right on, don't ya think?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:22 PM
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12. i absolutely do!
O:-)
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:38 AM
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2. Oh, for God's sake
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 10:46 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
This is surely not the way to win votes.

Dark legacy, dark America, evin twin.

As bad as things have been in this country, this has been the state of much of the world since humans roamed the earth, sane people realize that, so this is the kind of writing that turns off voters. Women didn't have the right to vote? Well, lordy, lordy! Women still don't have the right to vote in much of the world! Domestic violence? Nah, that only happens here. Racial inequality and injustice? Nah, that doesn't happen anywhere but here, also.

This article makes a fine exhibit for conservatives to point out how "liberals hate America." She had some excellent points to make, but they got lost in the rhetoric. A lengthy paragraph on domestic violence to make what point about Bush? Still haven't figured that one out.

Entire books can be written about domestic violence. because it's a subject worthy of discussion. It's an issue we should all be fighting against. I'm just not sure what the point of that paragraph in this particular article is supposed to prove. How evil we are? So the whole FRICKING world is evil.

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:10 PM
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6. this kind of writing doesn't turn me off ... it actually is a compass which points to the evil dark
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:21 PM by flordehinojos
side of bush and much of what he has done while at the same time, this writing, calls for one to find the inner compass from which much good can happen.

I think the writing is truth telling while being inspirational at the same time... And actually what she is saying is, don't look back on that part of our history with er have tried to bury but fuses very much so with the dark legacy of bush. LOOK FORWARD, she says, and look WITHIN for the light YOU can bring to the world that we must restore and rebuild.

She actually addressess the destruction the BUSHES have wrought upon our NATION ... which is painful to many of us and because we, many of us shy away from pain, we must push writings like Noria Antinoro's far away from our view and our senses... and yet, no rebuilding, no reconstruction can ever happen if we do not face the pain ... and no rebuilding of our government will ever happen without facing the pain of having to do it all over again.

Hooray for Noria Antinoro

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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:46 PM
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7. Whatever floats your boat :)
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:47 PM by midlife_mo_Jo
Just saying that this kind of writing won't garner lots of traction with the mainstream voter.

Then, again, I'm sure she's just preaching to the choir.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:20 PM
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10. do you really think so?
I think that just as bush has helped to divide the country, he has also helped the country to look long and hard into some of the darkest part of its own soul. the writer is simply shining the light and making and invitation to everyone to look within and come up with what inside each of us is there to help make this country better. that sounds like a winner to me... though i am sure to the bushies it would smell like rotten eggs.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:44 AM
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17. Yes, I do
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 11:40 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
As I think I stated before, she writes at length about the evils of domestic violence and women not having the right to vote here in the U.S. All of that is true, of course.

It's also true that this was the case all over the world, and is still the case in many parts of the world. Yet, she uses this to show how EVIL the U.S. is. Using that argument to show how dark we are simply reeks of lack of objectivity.

Mainstreamers read the rant of someone who "hates" America, even mainstreamers who care very much about things like women's right to vote.
And, frankly, I agree with that sentiment. We have SO MANY other issues like the war, universal healthcare, education, civil rights for all, pverty etc., to worry about, and she's still harping about women's suffrage? "That" is part of our "dark" past? geesh Most mainstreamers look at it from the opposite point of view. We do have the right to vote, and we got it before many of our sisters the world over because many brave American women fought long and hard for it, but also because we DO live in the U.S. and not some country where women are STILL viewed as chattel.

If this had been an article on women's issues - of course! - women's suffrage and domestic violence would take center stage. But to write at length about such issues to prove how dark our country is - nah - doesn't work for me. If this proves how bad we are - SHIT - some of the rest of the world is downright EVIL. Maybe we "should" be bombing the crap out of them. :sarcasm:
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:30 AM
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15. "traction with the mainstream voter" - hardly the point
how about one individual speaking from the heart to another. That is what some writing is about, and what makes it worthwhile.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:42 AM
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3. Initial European invasion over two hundred years ago?
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 10:43 AM by DavidD
That might make an interesting alternate history, but in this universe, the European "invasion" started over 500 years ago. At least.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:50 AM
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4. Which Is
...over two hundred years ago. Just sayin'.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:09 PM
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5. Oh, come now
That's not how such phrases are used. The writer was obviously confused and was thinking of the European era in North America as having begun with the American Revolution.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:58 PM
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8. Oh, Tut Tut
Have an elbow bone, old bean. I say, piff and twadle, awfter all. Capice?

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:44 PM
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9. Good grief. What's your problem?
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:23 AM
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13. Great Googly-Mooglies!
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:23 AM
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14. Great Googly-Mooglies!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:03 AM
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16. Welcome to my ignore list
Twit.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:16 PM
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18. Some People's Ignore Lists Are The Places To Be
Replace that "i" with another vowel.
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