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Let me simplify . . . and not just to be rhetorical: A coup has occurred. I woke up the other day realizing, coming out of sleep, that a coup has occurred. It’s not just a question that a coup lies ahead with the next 9-11. That’s the next coup that completes the first.

The last five years have seen a steady assault on every fundamental of our Constitution . . . what the rest of the world looked at for the last 200 years as a model and experiment to the rest of the world—in checks and balances, limited government, Bill of Rights, individual rights protected from majority infringement by the Congress, an independent judiciary, the possibility of impeachment.

There have been violations of these principles by many presidents before. Most of the specific things that Bush has done in the way of illegal surveillance and other matters were done under my boss Lyndon Johnson in the Vietnam War: the use of CIA, FBI, NSA against Americans.

All these violations were impeachable had they been found out at the time but in nearly every case the violations were not found out until out of office so we didn’t have the exact challenge that we have today.

That was true with the first term of Nixon and certainly of Johnson, Kennedy and others. They were impeachable. They weren’t found out in time. But I think it was not their intention, in the crisis situations that they felt justified their actions, to change our form of government.

It is increasingly clear with each new book and each new leak that comes out, that Richard Cheney and his now chief of staff David Addington have had precisely that in mind since at least the early 1970s. Not just since 1992, not since 2001, but have believed in executive government, single-branch government under an executive president—elected or not—with unrestrained powers. They did not believe in restraint.

When I say this, I’m not saying they are traitors. I don’t think they have in mind allegiance to some foreign power or have a desire to help a foreign power. I believe they have in their own minds a love of this country and what they think is best for this country—but what they think is best is directly and consciously at odds with what the Founders of this country thought.

They believe we need a different kind of government now, an executive government essentially, rule by decree, which is what we’re getting with ‘signing statements.’

Signing statements are talked about as line-item vetoes which is one of describing them which are unconstitutional in themselves, but in other ways are just saying the president says: ‘I decide what I enforce. I decide what the law is. I legislate.’

It’s with the military commissions, courts that are under the entire control of the executive branch, essentially of the president—a concentration of legislative, judicial, and executive powers in one branch, which is precisely what the founders meant to avert, and tried to avert and did avert to the best of their ability in the Constitution.” Continued>>>>>
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enablers of Cheney and Bush. Does anyone have any idea as to how we can reach them?

I would like to say as a caveat that no one wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.

with Liebs, I'd call him a co-conspirator
with difi, her conflicts of interest are huge. possibly criminal

Make NO mistake: Congress no longer answers to "we the people." The taint of corporate spoils has permeated our political system to the point where Congresspersons openly betray the people's trust, much like Jewish capos in the Nazi death camps. There is no more faith in government. Fascism in the United States is no longer hyperbole and speculation.

Wake up America!:kick:

August 9, 1974. Gerald Ford assumed the office of president that day. He was not elected to his vice-presidential position nor the presidency. I have always considered that a coup. On that day rummy & darth ingratiated themselves and under the guise of assisting this bewildered and out of his league man, as well as taking advantage of the whirlwind surrounding the congressional hearings, impeachment & resignation took control of Ford's presidency as his chief of staff (rummy 74-75, then as sec of defense 75-77)darth (75-77).

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The McCarthy Era was another kind of coup ---
an attack on the ideals of democracy --

And then how did we let them get away with following up with killing MLK and RFK --- ???

Shock then . . . shocking to look back on now ---

and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage a total war,
our children will sing great songs about us years from now."
-Richard Perle

whatta guy!

:sarcasm:
edit to add:
If I die in their endless wars do I get a valkrie? Cause I'd do it for a valkrie. So would my husband.

Cheney wants to show us they were wrong, and we'd be better off as a dictatorship in today's world.

If they don't honor their oath of office to uphold and protect the Constitution of The United States of America, they are traitors!

I think we’ve got to somehow get home to them that this is the time for them to uphold the oath, to preserve the Constitution, which is worth struggling for in part because it’s only with the power that the Constitution gives Congress responding to the public, only with that can we protect the world from madmen in power in the White House who intend an attack on Iran.

I DOUBT THAT MANY IN CONGRESS KNOW ABOUT THE CONSTITIUTION - AT LEAST JUDGING FROM TEHIR ACTIONS WHAT ELSe CAN WE THINK?

We need to pay attention to this in nominating our current Dem candidate.

We need to set aside the wedge issues and vote only for candidates who respect
the Constitution and are willing to stand up with some backbone and unravel the
damage that has been done to our country. This damage has been inflicted by both
Democrats and Republicans!

Put abortion, global warming, education, taxes, economic policy on the back burner and
focus on restoring the Constitution and our civil rights.

If we don't have a democracy or basic rights....we've got absolutely nothing!

Our democracy is on life support. If it's not fixed in this election cycle, we are
completely doomed.

Is she out of her mind? She had better open her damn eyes and start IMPEACHMENT proceedings NOW!!!!!

She has $500,000 invested in AT&T, as well as other investments in telcomms.

She's already got what she wants.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/congress/fin_dis/2006/p000197.pdf

and the Bush BIL gets her into BFEE territory. They should have to disclose this shit.

Pelosi and Reid are planning to REMOVE Renewable Energy Tax Credits from Energy Bill. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2264813

I knew about some of Pelosi's less-than-savory business connections, but not about Shrub's BiL--nor had I seen her actual Financial Disclosure Statement.

Meet the New Boss: Same as the Old Boss. :(

"what they think is best for this country—but what they think is best is directly and consciously at odds with what the Founders of this country thought"

to the extent they have--is treason.

Traitors? Maybe not by your definition. Treasonous?
By anyone's definition.

"I believe they have in their own minds a love of this country and what they think is best for this country"

...is that somehow, Dick Cheney--a sociopathic goon believes that he possesses more wisdom than Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Thomas Paine.

These people are thugs--low-life, repressed, emotionally stunted thugs.

They aren't fit to lick the dirt off of the shoes of the average working Joe in America.
Yet, they presume to think they know better than our Founding Fathers.

A SHIFT TO THE LEFT HAPPENED IN 2006.... JUST A SHIFT.... NOT OWNERSHIP.... THE BEGINNING OF A CORRECTION

LAST MONTH THE CORRECTION CONTINUED WITH DEMOCRATIC VICTORIES IN MORE STATE ELECTIONS

2008.... MORE CORRECTION WILL COME..... DUMP DIANE F IN CALIFORNIA... DUMP LIARMAN... DUMP ALL OF THE SUCK-YOU-DRY REPUBLICANS EVEN IF THEY ARE REPLACED BY DEMOCRATIC-LITE


MOVING THE COUNTRY IS LIKE U-TURNING A STEAMROLLER.... SLOW.... A 10% PUSH ALL OF THE TIME....
AN ENDLESS WATCHDOG ATTITUDE WHICH WAS MISSING IN 2000 AND COST US THE ELECTION.....

ENDLESS

NOT ENDING IN 2008

REGISTER YOUR FRIENDS AND CHILDREN AS THEY COME OF VOTING AGE
EDUCATE YOUR FAMILY THAT UNLESS YOU ARE WEALTHY, YOU BENEFIT FROM THE TAX-REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH
EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN THAT THEY BENEFIT FROM UNION ACTION IN THE JOB MARKET
EDUCATE YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT THE WORLD IS LIFE-BASED NOT CORPORATE-BASED

-----AS 2008 APPROACHES QUICKLY SEE THAT AT LEAST 2 PEOPLE YOU KNOW GET REGISTERED...
-----THAT THOSE WHO WOULD FEAR VOTING PLACES ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE BY MAIL
-----VOLUNTEER AT YOUR LOCAL DEMOCRATIC HOUSE

-------------------THE CHANGE IS ONLY COMING IF WE PUT AS MUCH WORK INTO IT AS THE SUBJECT DESERVES

Thank you for putting this in perspective.

Even if my ideal candidate may not be nominated, the reality is that any democrat would be a thousand percent better than a Repug. Any Democrat will help to turn around that steam ship.

:banghead:

I have a friend, who being extremely pragmatic, always asks me why would those in power do things that are against their and the people's interests and I always answer that madness has no reason. He can't seem to believe that simple answer, that those in power could be that insane. Yet, one has to only look at what is being done and take it for what it is, and what is being done is indeed by any account is insane.

If you check the history of the countries that have tried democracy in the past everyone of them lasted approximately 200 years before those that would exploit the very nature of its freedoms destroy it which is then followed more often than not by a brutal dictatorship.

It is my contention that not only have we reached that point we're just one more insane act away (Iran) from a total collapse of what use to be into a decent into a hellish police state that will not only end this fragile experiment in freedom but may very well end our species. I don't mean to sound alarmist, but the fact for the first time in history of man we do have the weapons to turn this planet into a burning cinder over-night in the hands of madmen.

in limbo forever. I really thought 2006 was going to be more of a visible turning point.

Since then, there have been quite a few coups.

It seems apparent to me, that if we don't win a super (complete) democratic majority in both house and the POTUS in 2008. Then sometime after there will be a revolution of sorts. Will it be like the 60s? I doubt it. It will be more violent, it will be a class struggle against the entire power elite structure. Perhaps a people coup, perhaps will win, but we'll need the military on our side to restore the Constitution.

They are active in subverting and overthrowing our government and that is treason to me. Just because it is not to be from a seperate country does not mean it is not treason because that seperate country would be an elite group of fascists that are internal terrorists. They first overthrew the republican party and now are working to achieve their control over the Democratic party and the rest of the government. They do this in the open, but never admit to their crimes of treason. They have so little opposition that it does scare me, but opposition there still is. Incidentally, they have no fear of a powerless civilian population that they have spyed upon to know who can or cannot stop them and they do threaten people with murder and have already attempted this many times with the anthrax. Those that we had heard of are most likely not the only incidents that had occured or the only way it had occured. Try to take back our government to gain our rights and freedoms back and see how fast you are labelled a traitor by them. I am not advocating doing this as yet as I still believe we can get back our rights and freedoms yet as their coup is not complete.

Dennis stands taller than all of those in government. Go get em DK and know you are not alone.