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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:41 PM
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If Kucinich launches impeachment hearings,will this make him a front funning presidential candidate?
Millions of Americans (not just so called "dems") will be infinitely grateful to Dennis Kucinich if impeachment hearings FINALLY get airborne. And it seems reasonable to assume that most of them will not forget him in the primaries and (God willing) as a presidential candidate.

Short of stopping Bush's elite, money cow Oil Wars, or getting to the bottom line truth of 9/11, there's probably nothing any Democratic congress person could do to be raised to the shoulders of millions and millions of Americans.

In short, he would have succeeded in doing what around three quarters of America now demands (dems, pugs, independents, etc., alike), i.e., START THE CONSTITUTIONAL IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS.

There's no doubt that no matter what happens from this point on, Kucinich will be given 100% credit for "making it happen", as indeed he should, since he has been the patriotic "voice crying in the (Democratic Congress) wilderness” for the last several years.

Of course, there's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip. Nancy Pelosi (the Republican mole) has blocked countless progressive issues, and there's no doubt history will remember her with contempt for her immediate pronouncement that impeachment would not be on the Democratic Congressional table.

Now we all know Congress was returned to the dems in 2006 by liberals and progressives who busted their butts (and wallets) to stand up to the elite/fascist, Bush juggernaut -- specifically, to STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ, impeach Bush and Cheney, and uncover the possibly treasonous truth of 9/11. Duh. Even barnyard animals know this is WHY the dems got the congress back.

But along comes Pelosi and Reed, and straight down the toilet goes the progressive agenda.

Passivity, passivity, passivity, Yes George, yes Mr. President, yes Mr. Cheney, whatever you say, we're your woman and man. Just tell us what you DON'T want, and we'll bury it. Just tell us what you DO want, and we'll make it happen. Nor sir, no rocking of the boat, nothing like that. Yes, yes, liberals are virtual terrorists and if you want, we'll tattoo your face on our foreheads (there's nothing behind them anyway).

Yes, this is shooting from the hip, but is it hyperbole? Is it exaggeration? Most Americans know full well that is ISN'T! Most Americas know (even though millions of us were shocked) that Pelosi and Reed are about as anti progressive as it's humanly possible to get.

But why? Why would they just "give away the farm" (so hard won) to Police State pugs? Money talks? Skeletons in the closet (if so, there must be an army of them). The betrayal of the electorate of the 2006 dem congress is simply off the chart. It boggles the mind to see these traitors simply give away (what's left of) our country AND PLANET to vampire elites, religious fanatics, and political fascists.

We had these evil scum on the run after 2006, but now THEY have the great majority of American citizens (according to all the polls) on the run. And more than any two people on planet Earth, we have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed to thank for it.

But, back to Kucinich. Back to honor and courage and brains. And back to our question. IF impeachment is rescued from the Pelosi/Bush prison, will this:

(a.) ALSO catalyze hearings on Bush's money cow Oil Wars?

(b.) ALSO catalyze hearings on the treacherous truth of 9/11?

(c.) ALSO massively validate and empower a Dennis Kucinich presidential campaign.

President Kucinich? Could be

The ballistic truth is that absolutely anything is possible if and when impeachment hearings become center stage in America. The spin off will rock the planet.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill)

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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:45 PM
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1. Yes...unless the MSM spins it as someone else being
the leader of it. They've started somewhat with Biden.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 08:49 PM
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2. It should - but the total blackout in the media would go on
Somehow, listening even to Randi (who is near perfect on coverage) she manage to give Biden credit for uttering the "I" word in the debate without mentioning DK's connection to it.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:42 AM
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10. I really think that was just because no one else besides Dennis had ever
uttered the word before in "polite company". :7 On Air America I'd guess that most listeners are familiar with Dennis's stance on impeachment, and his stellar performance on the floor the other day.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:01 PM
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3. no
I used to live in NE Ohio when Dennis was mayor of Cleveland, and I can't understand why anyone thinks he is capable of being President.

He just says everything liberals like to hear, which is safe for him since he'll never seriously run for office outside of his safe urban district.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:41 PM
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7. He did run
for office outside of his safe urban district and won--Ohio State Senate in 1994.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:53 AM
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12. He does LOTS more than just talk.
Dennis LEADS.

Dennis Kucinich is NOT afraid of losing large single source contributions (CEO).
He is free to speak for those Americans who must Work for a Living.

”Unlike other candidates, I am not funded by those corporate interests.
I owe them no loyalty, and they have no influence over me or my policies.”
---Dennis Kucinich



THIS is the voice that needs to HEARD in the USA and the World!

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position on the illegal and immoral Iraq Occupation.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has presented a Clear and Consistent position on Wars of Aggression, and the need to JOIN the International Community on Land Mine Bans and the International Criminal Court.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position supporting Single Payer Universal HealthCare.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position opposing "Free Trade".

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position on Election Reform and BBV. (Paper Ballots publicly hand counted locally).

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate to voice opposition to the Iraq “Oil Law Benchmark” that privatizes Iraqi Oil Reserves and gives 80% to American Oil Corps….a clear War Crime.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position opposing Media Consolidation.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position supporting the IMPEACHMENT of the criminal Bush administration.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has given Clear Voice to the ISSUES that are critical in America today, and has a consistent record on those issues.

Dennis Kucinich is the ONLY candidate who has a Clear & Consistent position on the NEED to reduce Defense Spending.


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.



BTW: Wasn't he ultimately give credit with saving $Millions for Ohio by fighting the privatization of a public utility?

Less Privatization!
More Regulation!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:12 PM
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4. NO.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:19 PM
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5. No. It will make him look like a kook.
Time for this congress to do something that will win back the approval of a majority of voters.

Fuck Bush and Cheney - they'll be in the trash heap in a year from now anyway.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 09:38 PM
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6. No. But it is the right thing to do
and Dennis has a way of acting on what he thinks is right, without regard to how it makes him look or what the consequences to his career might be.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:24 PM
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8. no
the press will bury him with hatred
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:50 AM
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9. Well I will welcome you to the DU. Many are being hasty or just wishing
aloud that what you say isn't so, but I have seen a difference here on the DU since DK pushed it before the house floor. I made my decision before he made that push, but to be honest with you because he did, I gave a few more dollars to his campaign than I was originally planning to. This also gave him some media coverage that has been so slow and nearly nonexistent in coming for a few candidates and not just DK. I believe many are seeing beyond the hype being pushed on us for a select few by the msm. If only more were exposed to the other candidates they too would see, but that isn't in somebody's plans to allow that to happen it seems.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 04:37 AM
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11. I agree, Bill...
...with your diagnosis of the Pelosi Democrats.

However, surely you must know Dennis will never be permitted to launch impeachment hearings. The leadership would rather sacrifice him -- and his supporters -- than a penny of corporate money or a single prospective McMansion voter. The sad reality is they'd do this gladly if they could win; they'd rather have disgruntled Republicans voting for them than have you or me.

Within a few weeks Pelosi, Reed and others will make it explicit to Dennis that pretend time is over -- and that all the party's machinery must be put behind the front-runner.

Among other things that will be a test of Kucinich's mettle: will he go meekly? I would like to believe no. There is the 2004 convention speech precedent to suggest, sadly, yes. Do not be shocked to see him up there later next year going on about how, if she is elected, Hillary Clinton is going to "fight" for us.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:06 AM
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13. I'ts difficult to imagine him doing that.
If she is our nominee he may voice his support, but I don't think he will enthusiastically say that she will fight for us. I pray she isn't our nominee, we will be the last she'll fight for. She will have her corporate priorities.
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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:30 PM
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15. I'm so afraid you're right about the hearings . . .
but maybe, just maybe it might "catch on" since its taken at least one, concrete necessary step. Of course the fact that the Constitution DEMANDS it (for about 14 different reason)is laughable fluff to the pugs.

Bill

I swear sometimes I think the only thing left to us is prayer.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:03 PM
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14. It Already DID!
Calling for impeachment on national tv has made Kucinich a household name.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:25 PM
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16. DK is not alone now in the debates on the IMpeachment score.
Sounds like Biden does not totally discount the possibility. Should Bush start another war. It's time.
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