Standing Up to the Schoolyard Bully - Democratic Underground

zonmoy

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Wed Nov-21-07 06:42 PM
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Standing Up to the Schoolyard Bully

U.S. Congressman John Olver (D-MA) said recently that he
"is deeply concerned whether we will actually have an election in Nov. '08, as he believes this administration will likely strike Iran from the air, declare a national emergency, and cancel the '08 elections".
As Ralph Nader describes it, Olver and the rest of Congress are afraid that -- if Bush or Cheney are impeached -- they might declare martial law and suspend the 2008 elections:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/11/congressman-white-house-might-impose.html

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Vincardog

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Wed Nov-21-07 06:46 PM
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1. Lets try it. Impeach them. IF they refuse to comply send in the National Guard.

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zonmoy

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Thu Nov-22-07 10:05 PM
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6. Are there any of the national guard

that isn't in iraq. also they would send the blackwater goon squad to stop them.

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provis99

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Fri Nov-23-07 01:32 AM
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8. Bush could easily federalize all National Guard forces in one second

in a state of emergency or state of war, he has absolute executive power to do so, and the governors of the states can't stop him.

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PDJane

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Wed Nov-21-07 07:21 PM
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2. Somewhere, I'm not sure whether it was here or not............

I mentioned that maybe the performance of the dems is as lacklustre as it has been because lawmakers are the first to know when a society is doing the fascist shift...and how much there is to lose.

This is in that vein.

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windoe

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Wed Nov-21-07 07:43 PM
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3. A line must be drawn here-

Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 07:44 PM by windoe

Clearly, these crimes cannot be tolerated or it will be the norm in the future.
Let's walk through this:
Martial law is declared by the executive branch.
WHO sends in the National Guard? What are the legal options here?
I am interested in an educated (legal) speculation on this scenario because I believe in facing things before they happen.

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Mojambo

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Wed Nov-21-07 07:46 PM
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4. If fucking Peter Brady can do it... n/t

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Cobalt-60

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Thu Nov-22-07 11:47 PM
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7. If we must fight a second Civil War, then let it begin now

And let the first fatality be the Republican Party.

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AdHocSolver

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Fri Nov-23-07 03:23 AM
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9. And if they aren't impeached, then they couldn't declare martial law and cancel 2008?? n/t

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BR_Parkway

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Fri Nov-23-07 06:42 AM
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10. Exactly. And if they declare it, how does that prevent them from

being impeached? Congress can still remove him from office.

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colonel odis

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Fri Nov-23-07 11:49 AM
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11. they'll probably prefer to be impeached

cause if they did declare martial law and try to shut down the country, there's a good chance the pitchforks and torches will come out and the white house would be stormed. i doubt that he's ever read history, but bush would be well served to keep in mind what happened to mussolini when people turned on him.

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