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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 07:56 AM
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Negotiating isn't appeasement
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-scoblic17-2008may17,0,6293795.story

Negotiating isn't appeasement
Bush, McCain and other conservatives are on the wrong side of history when they dismiss Obama's foreign policy.
By J. Peter Scoblic
May 17, 2008


In a speech to the Israeli parliament Thursday, President Bush took a swipe at Barack Obama for his willingness to negotiate with evil regimes.

"Some seem to believe that we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along," Bush said. "We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if I could only have talked to Hitler, all this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."

But if there is anything that has been discredited by history, it is the argument that every enemy is Hitler, that negotiations constitute appeasement, and that talking will automatically lead to a slaughter of Holocaust-like proportions. It is an argument that conservatives made throughout the Cold War, and, if the charge seemed overblown at the time, it seems positively ludicrous with the clarity of hindsight.

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Containment, negotiation, nuclear stability -- each of these things helped protect the United States and end the Cold War. And yet, at the time, conservatives thought each was synonymous with appeasement.

The Bush administration has been little different, refusing for years to talk to North Korea or Iran about their nuclear programs because it wanted to defeat evil, not talk to it. The result was that Pyongyang tested a nuclear weapon and Iran's uranium program continued unfettered. (By contrast, when the administration negotiated with Libya -- an act that its chief arms controller, John Bolton, had previously derided as, yes, "appeasement" -- it succeeded in eliminating Tripoli's nuclear program.)

Alas, John McCain accused President Clinton of "appeasement" for engaging North Korea, instead calling for "rogue state rollback," and now he dismisses the idea of negotiations with Iran. Given conservatism's historical record, Obama's inclination to negotiate seems only sensible. When will conservatives learn that it is 2008, not 1938?


J. Peter Scoblic, executive editor of the New Republic, is the author of "U.S. vs. Them: How a Half Century of Conservatism Has Undermined America's Security."

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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:10 AM
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1. Thanks for the article
Just sent it to a Conservative friend of mine.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:20 AM
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3. Great! I'd be curious to hear your friend's response. nt
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:18 AM
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2. They're not happy unless they are dumping our treasury
dollars into some military related pipe dream.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 08:20 AM
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4. Nor should bellicosity masquerade as diplomacy.
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