Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

It’s the Genes, Stupid

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:38 PM
Original message
It’s the Genes, Stupid
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
1. ???????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. Whoops!
Social scientists are stumped. Why do we bother to go to the polls when we know our individual vote has no chance of determining the result of a national election? Variations in turnout — by age, race, income or whatever — are hard to fit into a theory of human conduct that assumes that people are rational. But with time to spare before the November election, molecular biology is coming to the rescue. In the same way that researchers have teased out a role for genes in determining sexual orientation or the propensity to smoke, they are deploying genetics to understand our political choices.

That sounds like a stretch, and it may well be. But there is tempting evidence of a hereditary component to political choices. There is a strong correlation between the partisan choices of parents and children. Studies comparing identical and fraternal twins suggest that genes are at work alongside the social and psychological influence of parents. Political scientists at the University of California, San Diego have gone another step, identifying specific genes associated with voter participation and partisanship.

It seems as if people with one variant of the MAOA gene are more likely to vote than those with the other version. Among regular churchgoers, those with one type of the gene that make the 5HTT transporter molecule in the walls of neuron cells (don’t ask) are substantially more likely to vote than those with the other.

According to the researchers, James H. Fowler and Christopher T. Dawes, it works more or less like this: stress causes the release of excess serotonin in the brain, which can kill off neurons if it is not metabolized. People with the right versions of the MAOA gene and 5HTT are better at handling stress because they are better at synthesizing the molecules needed to reabsorb serotonin and break it down. And people who are better at handling stress deal better with the conflicts and strains inherent in forming political opinions and voting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/opinion/27tue4.html?th&emc=th
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. thank you. missed nyt this morning
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
4. I could have told you that!
That people with more SHiTT in their neurons will vote Republican. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. In other words, if you have shit-for-brains, you vote GOP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Nice try,
but that's not what the article said.

1) People that are stress-averse are less likely to vote; "stress averse" in this context involves a specific variant of a specific gene. Choosing between candidates involves stress. (One implication is that by making the choice for them, you might get them to vote: think walking money and pre-filled out voter "guides" that many unions produce.)

2) People with a specific allele are more likely to join groups--they're more "social". In political terms, that usually means joining a party and being partisan, putting group boundaries around themselves. It doesn't say which party. Partisan repubs are just as much joiners as partisan dems.

Presumably both variants of each gene conferred some advantage.

Left unstated: Distribution of each allele.

I'm fairly high stress averse; whether it's because of the first gene they discuss or not I can't know. I'm also just as averse--or more averse--to joining and being a good partisan, "my group right or wrong". (Which, of course, invariably means "my group right or wrong, but I can't see how my group could possibly be wrong. After all, the worst of my group is better than the best of their group." And other drivel.)

The death of partisanship is when you get a lot of people who aren't risk averse but aren't joiners (one could claim society would be at risk). True partisanship often involves being risk averse and an ardent joiner: Then you just find somebody to make your decisions for you, and you're in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 15th 2024, 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC