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Rusty5329 Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:04 PM
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"Water Boarding" Was Called "Water Torture" Until 2004
I want to thank Devilstower (Mark Sumner) from DailyKos, for pointing something out to me today:

"In 2004 the CIA first used the term "water boarding" as a joke on surf boarding. Before that it was called simply "water torture.""

And it is true, not sure about the joke on surf boarding, but the timing is accurate....

continued at http://leftchattering.blogspot.com/2009/05/water-torture-not-water-boarding.html
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:25 PM
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1. i remember as a kid asking my parents...'what is chinese water torture?'
either because they were ignorant (which I doubt, cause my father was CPO in WWII) or they wanted to protect me, they told me it was a never ending drip drip drip when a person was alone in a cell. I believed them till boosh got into office...and I am over 50 now! So whenever I heard the term 'water torture' I thought of the drip drip drip (like the faucet that drives you crazy when you are trying to fall asleep).
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Rusty5329 Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:21 PM
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6. actually...
that is a form of water torture, there a many. In that form, they drip water on your forehead at random times. After long enough, the brain's struggle to find a pattern in the drips drives you insane. It is a really sick kind of torture.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:50 PM
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2. Inconvenient kind of word, isn't it?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:49 PM
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3. When the US Army used it in the Phillipines in 1899 they called it "the water cure"
After Commadore Dewey defeated the Spanish Fleet in Manilla Bay, he returned the exiled Filipino rebel, Emilio Aguinaldo to the islands. The Rebels defeated the Spanish on the land and declared Phillipine independence. President Mckinley refused to recognize them and instead sent in General Miles (Wounded Knee Massacre) and troops fresh from the Indian Wars.

At first, Aguinaldo, et al. greeted the soldiers as liberators because he and some of his advisors had been inspired by the U.S. and wanted to use this a a model for the Phillipine Republic. In Feb. 1899 a war ensued between Filipinos and their "liberators.":sarcasm: In the next three years at least 4,000 U.S. soldiers had died -we always look at the war in terms of US lives- and BTW, hundreds of Thousands of Filipinos.

Within the first year of the war, there was news of atrocities torching villages and shooting prisoners. This news found its way home through the letters of US soldiers who were a long way from home to their families. The details began to be printed in newspapers across the country.

A letter in the Omaha World-Herald in May 1900, told of the "water cure" which had been used to help uncover a cache of weapons.

"Now thisis the way we give them the water cure"... Lay them on their backs, with a man standing on each hand and each foot, then put a round stick in the mouth and pour a pail of water in the mouth and nose, and if they don't give up, we pour in another pail. They swell up like toads. I'll tell you it is a terrible torture.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:52 PM
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4. That's the secret, this is all business as usual. Absolutely nothing new, absolutely routine. nt
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:55 PM
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5. bingo!
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Rusty5329 Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:36 AM
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7. I read a little bit about that...
thanks for the extra info
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