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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:05 PM
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Weekend Economists' Return to Camelot May 15-17, 200
Greetings and Salutations! Prithee return to a gentler, more courtly age, when men were men, women were women, and Might Makes Right was under new management.

The economy of mythical Camelot differed greatly from our own. While England may not have had serfdom to the extant of Russia, they had their rigid class structure which can still plague uppity Britains in a way Americans would never tolerate. Or would we?


Serfdom involved not only work in fields, but also various other activities, like forestry, mining, transportation (both land and river-based), and crafts. Manors formed the basic unit of society during this period, and the lord and his serfs were bound legally, economically, and socially. Serfs were labourers who were bound to the land; they formed the lowest social class of the feudal society. Serfs were also defined as people in whose labour landowners held property rights. Before the 1861 abolition of serfdom in Russia, a landowner's estate was often measured by the number of "souls" he owned. Feudalism in Europe evolved from agricultural slavery in the late Roman Empire and spread through Europe around the 10th century; it flourished in Europe during the Middle Ages but lasted until the 19th century in some countries. The Black Death broke the established social order and weakened serfdom. For example, serfdom was de facto ended in France by Philip IV, Louis X (1315), and Philip V (1318).<1><2> With the exception of a few isolated cases, serfdom had ceased to exist in France by the 15th century. In Early Modern France, French nobles nevertheless maintained a great number of seigneurial privileges over the free peasants that worked lands under their control. Serfdom was formally abolished in France in 1789.<3>

After the Renaissance, serfdom became increasingly rare in most of Western Europe but grew strong in Central and Eastern Europe, where it had previously been less common (this phenomenon was known as "later serfdom"). In England, the end of serfdom began with Tyler’s Rebellion and was fully ended when Elizabeth I freed the last remaining serfs in 1574.<2> There were native-born Scottish serfs until 1799, when coal miners previously kept in serfdom gained emancipation. However, most Scottish serfs had been freed before this time. In Eastern Europe the institution persisted until the mid-19th century. It persisted in Austria-Hungary till 1848 and was abolished in Russia in 1861.<4> In Finland, Norway and Sweden feudalism was not established, and serfdom did not exist.

According to the census of 1857 the number of private serfs in Russia was 23.1 million.<5> By comparison, the United States had approximately 4 million slaves by 1860,<6> and the British Empire had 776,000 slaves when it abolished slavery in 1834.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfs

Different, or eerily similar? You decide. Come along to Camelot:

ARTHUR:
It's true! It's true! The crown has made it clear.
The climate must be perfect all the year.

A law was made a distant moon ago here:
July and August cannot be too hot.
And there's a legal limit to the snow here
In Camelot.
The winter is forbidden till December
And exits March the second on the dot.
By order, summer lingers through September
In Camelot.
Camelot! Camelot!
I know it sounds a bit bizarre,
But in Camelot, Camelot
That's how conditions are.
The rain may never fall till after sundown.
By eight, the morning fog must disappear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

Camelot! Camelot!
I know it gives a person pause,
But in Camelot, Camelot
Those are the legal laws.
The snow may never slush upon the hillside.
By nine p.m. the moonlight must appear.
In short, there's simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh6VKpB6qc
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:29 PM
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1. At 6:30 PM Eastern We Don't Have a Bank Closing Yet
Perhaps the FDIC is spending the weekend geting their new digs set up?

Watch this space for developments...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:30 PM
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63. Guess the FDIC got a Weekend Off
They earned it.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:33 PM
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2.  Creditor to predator (How to Be a Vulture)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8ae7090e-40b5-11de-8f18-00144feabdc0.html

By Henny Sender

Published: May 14 2009 19:55 | Last updated: May 14 2009 19:55

Analysis image

It was 2004 and America’s housing boom was near its height – 2.2m homes were started in the US that year and, if there was one thing they all needed inside and out, it was doors. One main supplier of those: Masonite International, a Canadian company that for 80 years had been in a construction materials business William Mason, its founder, helped develop with his trademarked hardboard.

So it came as little surprise that Masonite caught the eye of the mighty Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, which days before that Christmas won management’s approval for it to take over the group. Outside shareholders held out against the New York private equity house and a few months later were won round only by an improvement in the terms to value Masonite at C$3.3bn.

Four years on, with housing markets ravaged by subprime defaults and the wider crisis those triggered, Masonite finally filed this March for bankruptcy protection in the Delaware and Ontario courts. Under the ownership of KKR, which had borrowed $1.5bn from the banks and issued an additional $770m in high-yield bonds to help gain control, it had closed or consolidated two dozen facilities and, from some 15,000 staff, it was down to fewer than 8,500. Last year the group sold only 36m doors, compared with 55m in 2006.

But what is most telling of all about Masonite is who its next owners may be. They are likely to include Oaktree Capital, a little-known investment firm based in Los Angeles. Despite its low profile, Oaktree is emerging as one of the dominant players of an arcane game that will dominate the financial world this year – investing in the debt of troubled companies in anticipation that some debtholders will end up controlling them at bargain prices.

In bankruptcy, ownership of a company passes to the debtholders from those who control the equity. But in a twist of fate among the practitioners of tooth-and-claw capitalism, it is the private equity buy-out groups – which loaded with debt the companies they acquired and squeezed those assets to improve their returns – that are now about to be bested by other masters of the fleet-footed financial arts...

MUCH MORE AT LINK--GRAPHS, EVEN! WELL WORTH THE READ
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:36 PM
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3. U.S. banking crisis may last until 2013: S&P
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE54C6XL20090513


By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A day after saying big U.S. banks probably needed to raise only one-fourth the capital demanded by the government, Standard & Poor's said the nation's banking crisis has "merely entered a new phase" and might not end before 2013.

The credit rating agency said the industry is being propped up by hundreds of billions of dollars of government support, especially for lenders considered too important to the financial system to fail.

While efforts to spur lending, take bad assets off banks' balance sheets, and restart the market for packaging and selling securities may help the sector, S&P said banks will have a tough time surviving absent a bigger capital cushion than regulators require.

"There's nothing to say that this banking crisis can't go on for another three or four years," S&P Managing Director Tanya Azarchs said.

S&P did not immediately return a request for comment....more

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:47 PM
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4. Treasury plans help for muni bond market
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/de7e2b6e-40de-11de-8f18-00144feabdc0.html


By Tom Braithwaite in Washington and Nicole Bullock in New York

Published: May 15 2009 00:56 | Last updated: May 15 2009 00:56

The US Treasury would provide a backstop to stricken states like California, which are struggling to raise debt, under legislation due to be introduced to Congress.

Proposals published on Thursday would see the Treasury acting as a reinsurer in the market and the Federal Reserve setting up bond purchase agreements, which were commonly provided by banks until the credit crisis.

The changes present an even greater use of federal money and oversight into new areas of the market, with billions of dollars from the $700bn troubled assets relief programme – which has been used to buy stakes in banks and car companies.

Rating agencies would also come under pressure to improve state and local governments’ credit ratings, with the Securities and Exchange Commission tasked with checking that they are not assigning too high a risk of default compared with corporate bonds.

Barney Frank, the Democratic chairman of the House Financial Services Committee who supports legislation, said that he would hold hearings into the changes on May 21.

The proposals have been sought by state and local governments since the municipal bond market, where they raise money for projects that benefit the general public, seized up last year and forced issuers to shelve more than $100bn in bond sales.

Financing conditions have improved considerably in the last few months thanks in part to a provision in the stimulus package which provides a subsidy for interest on taxable muni bonds sold for infrastructure projects. These new bonds, called Build America Bonds, have been popular with investors and issuers alike and helped to alleviate some of the overhang borrowing needs.

Public finance still faces challenges as it tries to recover from multiple blows, including the demise of many bond insurers which guaranteed half of the $2,700bn market a year ago.

The lack of cheap insurance has left many small borrowers unable to raise debt. The credit crunch also exposed some questionable practices related to the awarding of bond contracts and the use of interest rate derivatives whose risks many issuers did not fully understand. Various groups have called for heightened regulation, particularly of financial advisors.

Underlying fiscal woes of state and local economies also remain as revenues from personal income, sales and corporate income tax continue to drop.

Some muni market participants, however, have warned of risks to federal intervention. For example, local governments may not tackle deficits as seriously and their credit worthiness could suffer.

SO, GEITHNER IS TAKING ON WARREN BUFFET?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:51 PM
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5. TARP Beneficiary Says "Sham" Bailouts Help Speculators
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/05/tarp-beneficiary-says-sham-bailouts.html


The TARP elicited a firestorm of criticism at its inception, and at various points of its short existence, particularly the repeated injections into "too big to fail" Citigroup and Bank of America, plus the charade of Paulson forcing TARP funds onto banks who were eager to take them once the terms were revealed. Now, however, conventional wisdom on the program might be summarized as, "it's flawed, but still better than doing nothing."

That of course is a false polarity. Having the TARP, particularly given the amount of funds committed, precluded quite a few other courses of action. And the TARP was part of a strategy to avoid resolving sick banks, when the history of banking crises shows that speedy action to clean up dud banks and restructure or write off bad debt (both of the bank and to the bank) is the fastest course to economic recovery.

So far, the beneficiaries of the handouts equity injections have complained only about the Obama Administration's occasional efforts to act like a substantial shareholder and exercise some influence over the companies' affairs. We are the first to acknowledge that these too often have involved matters of appearance (executive pay) as opposed to substance (risk taking on the taxpayer dime for the benefit of shareholders and employees).

But now we have a salvo from an unexpected source: an investor who used TARP funds to buy a bank, and thinks taxpayers are getting ripped off. Mark Patterson, of MatLInPatterson Advisers, used TARP matching funds to buy a Michigan bank. This by no means was a large transaction, but the point is that someone that one would expect to praise the process (after all, he benefitted from its largesse) is a pointed critic.

From the Telegraph:

“The taxpayers ought to know that we are in effect receiving a subsidy. They put in 40pc of the money but get little of the equity upside,” said Mark Patterson, chairman of MatlinPatterson Advisers...

Mr Patterson said the US Treasury is out of its depth and seems to be trying to put off drastic action by pretending that the banking system is still viable.

“It’s a sham. The banks are insolvent. The US government is trying to sedate the public because they are down to the last $100bn (£66bn) of the $700bn TARP funds. They think they’re doing this for the greater good of society,” he said, speaking at the Qatar Global Investment Forum.

Mr Patterson said it would be better for the US to bite the bullet as Britain has done, accepting that crippled lenders must be nationalised. “At least the British are not hiding the bail-out,” he said.

MatlinPatterson said private equity and hedge funds were deluding themselves in hoping to go back to business as usual after the trauma of the last 18 months.

“This is not a normal recession and there will be no V-shaped recovery. The crisis has destroyed leveraged companies. We’re going to see a catastrophic increase in the number of LBO’s (leveraged buyouts) going into default because they’re knee-deep in debt and no solution exists since they can’t refinance,” he said.

“Alpha hedge funds have been making their money by gambling with excessive leverage, so the knife that cuts off leverage is going to cut off their heads as well,” he said...

“The US government has thrown 29pc of GDP at this crisis compared to 8pc in the early 1930s. The Fed’s balance sheet has risen from $900bn to $2.7 trillion to bail out the system. America has to do it because the only way out is to debase the currency, but that is going to lead to some very high inflation three years down the road,” he said.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:55 PM
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6. Madoff case trustee expects to retrieve funds (Let the Clawbacks Begin!)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f86dc1b6-40b0-11de-8f18-00144feabdc0.html

The trustee in charge of recovering assets from Bernie Madoff’s fraudulent investment scheme expects to reach financial settlements over the coming weeks with a handful of investors who reaped profits.

At a press conference on Thursday, Irving Picard, the court-appointed trustee, said he expected “significant settlements” in the near future, although he declined to say whether he was negotiating with parties against whom he has already filed suit, or as yet unnamed beneficiaries of Mr of Mr Madoff’s Ponzi scheme.

This week, Mr Picard filed suit against Jeffry and Barbara Picower, seeking the return of $5.1bn in proceeds the couple allegedly had withdrawn from the Madoff funds over the years.

He has also filed suits against other parties, including Harley International, a hedge fund, seeking an additional $5bn.

The Madoff fraud is supposed to have taken in more than $64bn over two decades.

Mr Madoff pleaded guilty this year and a federal judge yesterday scheduled his sentencing for June 29.

Mr Picard said he expected Securities Investor Protection Corporation commitments to compensate victims of the fraud to exceed $100m this month. So far, SIPC has agreed to pay out more than $61m to 125 victims.

In all, 8,884 claims have been filed in connection with 3,565 customer accounts at Bernard L Madoff Investment Securities.

So far, Mr Picard has recovered some $1bn in Madoff-related assets.

To help the most extreme cases, he has established a “hardship case” process by which certain claimants, particularly those in danger of losing their homes, or the elderly or vulnerable can move to the front of the claims queue.

As for the $10bn Mr Picard has sought through lawsuits, the trustee said: “In some cases, the money is in foreign countries and subject to court proceedings.

“In some cases, the money has been expended by recipients. In the US, in some cases, the recipients are holding the money.”

Stephen Harbeck, president of the SIPC, said: “We’re at the end of the beginning of this remarkably complicated case.”

Mr Harbeck said the SIPC fund, which relies on annual dues paid by member firms, and is chartered by the US Congress, would have sufficient funds to pay out approved claims.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:57 PM
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7. Lithium in water 'curbs suicide'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8025454.stm

Drinking water which contains the element lithium may reduce the risk of suicide, a Japanese study suggests.

Researchers examined levels of lithium in drinking water and suicide rates in the prefecture of Oita, which has a population of more than one million.

The suicide rate was significantly lower in those areas with the highest levels of the element, they wrote in the British Journal of Psychiatry.

High doses of lithium are already used to treat serious mood disorders.

But the team from the universities of Oita and Hiroshima found that even relatively low levels appeared to have a positive impact of suicide rates.

Levels ranged from 0.7 to 59 micrograms per litre. The researchers speculated that while these levels were low, there may be a cumulative protective effect on the brain from years of drinking this tap water.

Added element

At least one previous study has suggested an association between lithium in tap water and suicide. That research on data collected from the 1980s also found a significantly lower rate of suicide in areas with relatively high lithium levels.

The Japanese researchers called for further research in other countries but they stopped short of any suggestion that lithium be added to drinking water.

The discussion around adding fluoride to water to protect dental health has proved controversial - criticised by some as mass involuntary medication.

In an accompanying editorial, Professor Allan Young of Vancouver's Institute for Mental Health said "this intriguing data should provoke further research.

"Large-scale trials involving the addition of lithium to drinking water supplies may then be feasible, although this would undoubtedly be subject to considerable debate. Following up on these findings will not be straightforward or inexpensive, but the eventual benefits for community mental health may be considerable."

Sophie Corlett, external relations director at mental health charity Mind said the research "certainly merits more investigation.

"We already know that lithium can act as a powerful mood stabiliser for people with bipolar disorder, and treating people with lithium is also associated with lower suicide rates.

"However, lithium also has significant and an unpleasant side effects in higher doses, and can be toxic. Any suggestion that it should be added, even in tiny amounts, to drinking water should be treated with caution and researched very thoroughly."
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 05:59 PM
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8. What do the simple folk do To help them escape when they're blue?
GUENEVERE
What do the simple folk do
To help them escape when they\'re blue?
The shepard who is ailing, the milkmaid who is glum
The cobbler who is wailing from nailing his thumb
When they\'re beset and besieged
The folk not noblessly obliged
However do they manage to shed their weary lot?
Oh, what do simple folk do we do not?

ARTHUR
I have been informed by those who know them well
They find relief in quite a clever way
When they\'re sorely pressed, they whistle for a spell
And whistling seems to brighten up their day
And that\'s what simple folk do
So they say

GUENEVERE
They whistle?

ARTHUR
So they say

(they whistle for a while)

GUENEVERE
What else do the simple folk do
To pluck up the heart and get through?
The wee folk and the grown folk
Who wander to and fro
Have ways known to their own folk
We throne folk don\'t know
When all the doldrums begin
What keeps each of them in his skin?
What ancient native custom provides the needed glow?
Oh, what do simple folk do?
Do you know?

ARTHUR
Once, upon the road, I came upon a lad
Singing in a voice three times his size
When I asked him why, he told me he was sad
And singing always made his spirits rise
And that\'s what simple folk do
I surmise

GUENEVERE
They sing?

ARTHUR
I surmise

BOTH
Arise, my love, arise, my love
Apollo\'s lighting the skies, my love
The meadows shine with columbine
And daffodils blossom away
Hear Venus call to one and all
And taste delight while you may
The world is bright and all is right
And life is merry and gay

GUENEVERE
What else do the simple folk do?
They must have a system or two
They obviously outshine us at turning tears to mirth
And tricks a royal highness is minus from birth
What, then, I wonder, do they
To chase all the goblins away?
They have some tribal sorcery you haven\'t mentioned yet
Oh, what do simple folk do to forget?

ARTHUR
Often, I am told, they dance a fiery dance
And whirl \'till they\'re completely uncontrolled
Soon the mind is blank and oh, they\'re in a trance
A violent trance astounding to behold
And that\'s what simple folk do
So I\'m told

GUENEVERE
They dance?

ARTHUR
So I\'m told

(they dance)

GUENEVERE
What else do the simple folk do
To help them escape when they\'re blue?

ARTHUR
They sit around and wonder what royal folk would do
And that\'s what simple folk do

GUENEVERE
(spoken)
Oh, no, really?

ARTHUR
I have it on the best authority.

BOTH
(sung)
Yes, that\'s what simple folk do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZdlnqxFWpE
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:13 PM
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15. This is bringing back memories

Camelot was the very first movie my friends and I saw on our own as pre-teens. We gathered up our babysitting money and walked over to the movie theater sitting through it over and over again till they threw us out.

We sang (mangled) the songs all the way on the walk home.

For one brief shining moment . . .
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:34 PM
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19. This is the version I remember
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:09 PM
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23. Lithium in the water is good? Then thorazine is better.
Drug 'em into a stupor with the "chemical straitjacket."

Or wait, . . . I know! Give 'em 500 TeeVee channels. According to a very wise man: "Karl Marx thought religion was the opiate of the masses. But he'd never heard of TV."
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 12:07 PM
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71. El Paso Texas has high levels of lithium in the water....
Edited on Sun May-17-09 12:13 PM by AnneD
if you have ever been there-that explains a lot. Folks have their mellow on in El Paso, which is a good thing. They close the main road that leads from Alamogordo periodically to fire rocket at Fort Bliss (hmmmm). They announce it on the radio, but if you miss the announcements and are on the road-you are screen-no Bliss for you for a while :spray:. One of the crazier things I dealt with while living in Cloudcroft. They shoot them off at any time. The major shopping places that have anything you need is either in Las Cruces or El Paso.

Edited to add that as a school nurse-I have always been in favour of Thorazine spray and valium salt licks for the staff and have looked for them in our vendor's catalogs. I could make a fortune if I could patent that idea and produce it.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:08 PM
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9. On Wall Street: Chrysler saga sets dangerous precedent
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4d04d3e-3675-11de-af40-00144feabdc0.html

By Francesco Guerrera

Published: May 1 2009 20:15 | Last updated: May 1 2009 20:15

Il fine giustifica i mezzi. (The end justifies the means.) Thus wrote Niccolò Machiavelli, the grandaddy of all political consiglieri, in instructing his prince on how to seize and retain power.

It is unclear whether Barack Obama, the US president, heeded this timeless advice in deciding Chrysler’s fate this week.

But if Mr Obama hasn’t read it yet, Sergio Marchionne, the Italian-born head of Fiat and Chrysler’s boss-to-be, should send him a copy of The Prince. Bank executives and investors should also skim the book as they could be in for some Chrysler-like treatment soon....


As a fellow basketball fan, the president will not mind if I call a time out. There are several problems with the logic of the Chrysler “rescue”.

First of all, it did not stave off bankruptcy. Chrysler duly filed for Chapter 11 on Thursday.

Mr Obama said it would be a “surgical”, quick in-and-out, process but that will be up to the court, not him.

More importantly, the Chrysler saga sets a dangerous precedent for US capital markets. For once, the law is unambiguous: senior secured creditors should be paid before junior unsecured creditors and employees (the words “senior” and “junior” are a bit of a give-away on this point). By turning legal wisdom on its head – and vilifying investors that opposed the move – the administration is signalling the principle is no longer sacred.

While that, in itself, will not cause a massive capital flight away from the US, it will have some serious repercussions.

Fund managers and hedge funds are already reluctant to participate in the authorities’ plans to rid banks of toxic assets for fear of government retribution on pay. The Chrysler “cram-down” of lenders is hardly going to fill them with confidence.

After this week’s completion of “stress tests”, holders of preferred securities in some banks will be asked to exchange them into equity to recapitalise those cash-strapped institutions. How can they be sure the terms will be fair?

And how safe will senior debt holders in, say, Citigroup or Bank of America, feel after what happened to their Chrysler counterparts?

The government has a real problem here. Call it the “paradox of the official bailer-outer”: the authorities’ position as rescuer-in-chief forces them to take an active role in the private sector, yet their goals (saving jobs, getting re-elected etc) conflict with the smooth running of the very markets they are trying to preserve.

Mr Obama’s task has been complicated by the pre-crisis growth of the “shadow banking system”: hedge funds and other lenders whose aims and strategies are opaque and often conflict with those of larger banks.

But the rulers of the world’s largest economy ought to avoid short-term fixes that undermine the long-term strength of its capital markets.

No end justifies the end of the rule of financial law.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:09 PM
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10. “I Wonder What the King Is Doing Tonight”
ARTHUR:
I know what my people are thinking tonight,
As home through the shadows they wander.
Ev'ryone smiling in secret delight,
They stare at the castle and ponder.
Whenever the wind blows this way,
You can almost hear ev'ryone say:

I wonder what the king is doing tonight?
What merriment is the king pursuing tonight?
The candles at the court, they never burned as bright.
I wonder what the king is up to tonight?
How goes the final hour
As he sees his bridal bower
Being regally and legally prepared?
Well, I'll tell you what the king is doing tonight:
He's scared! He's scared!

You mean that a king who fought a dragon,
Hacked him in two and fixed his wagon,
Goes to be wed in terror and distress?
Yes!

A warrior who's so calm in battle
Even his armor doesn't rattle
Faces a woman petrified with fright?
Right!

You mean that appalling clamoring
That sounds like a blacksmith hammering
Is merely the banging of his royal knees?
Please!

You wonder what the king is wishing tonight?
He's wishing he were in Scotland fishing tonight!
What occupies his time while waiting for the bride?
He's searching high and low for some place to hide.
And oh, the expectation,
The sublime anticipation
He must feel about the wedding night to come.
Well, I'll tell you what the king is feeling tonight:
He's numb!
He shakes!
He quails! He quakes!
And that's what the king is doing tonight.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:28 PM
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18. It is even better in video form
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:13 PM
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11. Credit Default Swaps In Action
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 07:26 PM
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16. videos - Credit Derivatives Explained

5/12/09 2 videos, in easy to understand terms
Credit Derivatives Explained

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/12/credit-derivatives-explai_n_202431.html
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:39 PM
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12. The Federal Reserve: The hedge fund of Foggy Bottom
http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13579025


If you do not adjust for risk, the Fed is making good money for Uncle Sam

THE Federal Reserve does not set out to make bumper profits. But its 2008 annual accounts, released on April 23rd, would turn many a hedge-fund manager green with envy.

Like Wall Street’s finest, the Fed makes money on a spread. Its main source of funds comes from issuing cash, since currency in circulation is, in effect, an interest-free loan by the public to the central bank. The interest it earns on its loans and securities is almost pure profit, or “seigniorage,” most of which it remits to the Treasury.

Last year the central bank reported a whopping $43 billion in operating income. That was more or less the same level as in 2007, but meanwhile short-term interest rates had plummeted, ending the year near zero. That should have clobbered Fed income, as rate cuts did in the early days of the last recovery in 2002-04 (see chart).



But it did not, for two reasons. First, to shore up financial markets the Fed has pumped up its balance-sheet—its total assets were $2.2 trillion on December 31st, more than double their level of a year earlier. Second, it has been trading in low-risk, low-return Treasury debt and buying higher-yielding private debt—discount loans to banks, commercial paper, and mortgage-backed securities, for example.

The Fed has, in effect, been adding both risk and return to its portfolio. So far so good, despite mark-to-market losses on the securities it acquired bailing out Bear Stearns and American International Group. But as hedge-fund managers have learnt of late, you “reach for yield” at your peril. The risk is an occasional hit big enough to wipe out years of profits.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:42 PM
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13. Is Liquidity Really Good for You?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/05/is-liquidity-really-good-for-you.html

One of the arguments apparently being made in Washington by those who oppose regulation of credit default swaps is that it would reduce liquidity and that of course would be a terrible thing.

My impression is that no one has endeavored to put metrics on this assertion (as in how and where liquidity would be reduced and what the consequences would be). However, just because a certain amount of liquidity is good, it does not necessarily follow that more is always better. Recall Keynes' remark, "When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill done." Excessive liquidity can lead to precisely such an outcome. (Note we recently discussed evidence of harm caused by CDS, and asked readers for examples of where they were beneficial, and what sort of transactions required customization. The response was underwhelming).

We are suffering a hangover from just such a period. One of the comments I have heard from debt market participants in the bubble era was that they were faced with a 'wall of liquidity", tons of money looking for places to park it. And some of that appeared to be the direct result of credit default swaps. CDS allowed banks in Europe to circumvent capital requirements, enabled investment banks to accelerate profits from deals into the current period by (in theory) defeasing risk, allowed banks to extend bigger loans than they would have otherwise by hedging some of the risk. The net effect was that a lot of players achieved higher gearing than they would have otherwise.

Another effect of high liquidity is to lower bid-ask spreads. Until recently, greater efficiency (which is what you get with lower transaction costs) is seen as a boon. But lower transaction costs also fuel speculative activity. Behavioral finance studies have found that even in simple bidding setting, participants create bubbles. Low transaction costs and the appearance of abundant liquidity supports short-term, momentum based trading strategies, with participants believing they can find the exits when they need to (recall former Citi CEO Chuck Prince's infamous "still dancing" remark). Higher frictional costs lead investors to think twice about adding and exiting positions.

Reader thought on this issue are encouraged. How does one judge when liquidity has become excessive, when the ease of trading starts to distort fundamental activity, or adjacent markets? Or is it like pornography, difficult to define objectively, but easy to identify?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 06:44 PM
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14. The seven deadly virtues
Edited on Fri May-15-09 06:48 PM by Demeter
MORDRED
The seven deadly virtues, those ghastly little traps
Oh no, my liege, they were not meant for me
Those seven deadly virtues were made for other chaps
Who love a life of failure and ennui
Take courage-now there's a sport
An invitation to the state of rigor mort
And purity-a noble yen
And very restful every now and then
I find humility means to be hurt
It's not the earth the meek inherit, it's the dirt
Honesty is fatal, it should be taboo
Diligence-a fate I would hate
If charity means giving, I give it to you
And fidelity is only for your mate
You'll never find a virtue un-status-ing my quo or making my Beelze-bubble burst
Let others take the high road, I will take the low
I cannot wait to rush in where angels fear to go
With all those seven deadly virtues free and happy little me has not been cursed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1v_8wjjlks
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:20 PM
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17. Huge shortfall found at Stanford Caribbean bank
The Caribbean offshore bank at the center of an alleged fraud scheme by Texas billionaire R. Allen Stanford apparently has nowhere near enough money to repay depositors from around the world.

A court-appointed accounting firm reviewing the bank's books has found that Stanford International Bank in Antigua owes depositors $7.2 billion including interest. In all, there were nearly 28,000 depositors from 113 countries.

But the firm finds SIB has only about $1 billion in assets, including $46 million in cash at the bank.

Vantis PLC said in a statement Friday it's too early to say how much investors will get back.

&cate_rss=news_Business

CNBC last night had an in-depth piece on Stanford who is still claiming there is no ponzi going on here.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:51 PM
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21. You'd Have to Be Crazy to Look for Money in a Bank!
Disintermediation, that's the ticket!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:07 PM
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27. And I suppose the FDIC will just jump in here and bail 'em out?
Oh, do not get me started tonight.

But can't you just see Obama/Geithner/some asshole somewhere going on MTP or FTN and saying that we have some stupid-ass OBLIGATION to make these deposits good, even though the bank is in fucking ANTIGUA and they probably never paid a penny for FDIC insurance? I mean, why the hell not! We bailed out AIG in London and we bailed out GM so they can ship their operations to China. So why not just bail out that smarmy 'Sir' Allen/Alan/Shmallen and pump a bunch more taxpayer dollars into the hands of the already undeserving rich? Why not, huh, why not?


From afar it looked a fair place,
Of knights and damsels,
Of queens and kings
And honor and dreams.
But men do lie and cheat
And willingly trade trust for gold
And love for lust.
So the dreams die in bitterness.
Honor crumbles into dust.
The kingdom that was is no more
Nor ever was.
But it looked a fair place.
It looked a fair place.





TG
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:35 PM
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20.  It's So Easy to Set Up A Tax Haven in Panama, Even An Intern Could Do It!


We recently told you how some of the bailed-out banks and insurance firms are pushing Congress to pass Bush's leftover NAFTA expansion with Panama – where some of them have tax shelter subsidiary corporations. As I was researching Panama's tax haven status for our recent report, I wondered just how easy it was to set up a corporation in Panama to dodge taxes. In fact, it seemed so simple, I asked Global Trade Watch's star intern Jessica to give it a try. Jessica, a college sophomore, sprung into action last week seeking to answer one question: How easy is it to set up a tax-dodging corporation in Panama?

Check out this hilarious video to see how she does:

video at link
http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2009/05/its-so-easy-to-set-up-a-tax-haven-in-panama-even-an-intern-could-do-it.html
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 08:57 PM
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22. Is Carlyle Shady? Cuomo Says There Are “Gradations of Wrongdoing”
http://www.pehub.com/39941/is-carlyle-shady/

If you’re like me, you’ve been wondering: “Why does Carlyle Group get to pay its way out of the New York Common pay-to-play scandal, while Saul Meyer and Aldus Equity face criminal charges? And why has Carlyle’s partner, Riverstone, yet to be charged?” Wonder no more.

At a press conference outside his office this afternoon, NY Attorney General Andrew Cuomo told reporters that future investigations with other entities, Riverstone included, are ongoing. He said a case against Riverstone is in the works, but wouldn’t say whether the firm would be slapped with a criminal or civil case.

When asked, “Why Aldus but not Carlyle?” he said his office was looking at different facts and roles for each individual party. “There are gradations of wrongdoing,” he said, pointing out that Riverstone is in the wrong, and that Carlyle bears responsibility as a partner (by just a few shades). Does Carlyle’s $20 million payment signal an admission of guilt? Does it mean Carlyle was in the wrong (which the firm has vehemently denied)? Cuomo smoothly said his office neither affirms or denies Carlyle’s culpability.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 09:24 PM
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24. I've long thought the problem with Republicans was they never learned the lessons of King Arthur
They got stuck at "Might makes Right," and never progressed to "Might FOR Right." Might makes Right is the one and only natural law. Unfortunately, it leads to horrible forms of government. Adding an ulterior agenda, an outside concept of morality, and getting the strongest to agree to use their might to enforce that morality, that leads to much better government--the rule of law. That's what the selfish and the greedy miss. When they put economics above all, profit above all, then murder, torture, extortion, and fraud become commonplace tools of business.

The idea that no one is above the law used to be an American ideal. Then Ford pardoned Nixon. And now Obama (thus far) has declined to prosecute Cheney, despite Cheney's repeated attempts to confess.

I always wanted King Arthur to come back as President of the United States. Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 10:36 PM
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25. Arthur was a sadly flawed character
Perhaps that's why there are so many versions of his myth, and why so many more versions are constantly being created.

It's all about triangles -- Ygraine/Pendragon/Merlin, or Arthur/Guinivere/Lancelot, or Arthur/Lancelot/Mordred, or Arthur/Guinivere/Morgan -- and the choices they represent. Choices between good and evil, between self and community, between love and obligation, between power and honor, between reality and ideals.



I should have had margaritas tonight.




Tansy Gold
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:21 PM
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45. I'm Beginning to Suspect Obama's Character Is a Bit too Pliable
and they've been force-feeding him Koolaid.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:25 PM
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72. Which reminds me....
I found the absolute perfect PERMANENT and OFFICAL anthem for SMW-not just a daily theme. I'll post on SMW on Monday. I promise it is just too perfect.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-15-09 11:03 PM
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26. We've got the sword stuck up our ass. Automatic Earth.
And it don't look like anybody is going to pull it out!

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Ilargi: Today's a pivotal day, the entire system has started to visibly tumble in on itself, and it takes unfortunately takes me more time than I have right now to detail it. There's always tomorrow. But the evidence still doesn't lie.

Exchanges can rally all they want. When you see that "US prices fall most since 1955", you’re looking at at something that could change rather quickly. Once you get to "US production capacity utilization lowest since records began in 1967", that is not the case. There's a lot more inertia in capacity utilization. Detroit runs at 42% of capacity, and all economic numbers except for those blurting out of Wall Street and Washington indicate that even that is nowhere near a bottom in actual sales.

Like a diabetic junkie camping out at a fast food takeout counter, President Obama, after increasing government debt and borrowing close to fourfold, says the debt and borrowing that are on his tab are not sustainable. And then pledges to bail out insurance companies, for no reason that anyone can seem to fathom, and to prop up the municipal bonds markets, after ensuring the death of those very markets himself with the announcement of the issuance of mind-boggling amounts of federal bonds.

Everything that still functions to a degree in the US now runs on government hand-outs, bail-outs and guarantees. Everything. That's it. And I’m not kidding here. Take out government support for banks, home purchases, car loans and all the rest, and you would be looking at a barren lunar economic landscape. And things are getting visibly worse every single day. GM and Chrysler may or may not come out of bankruptcy proceedings, their present predicaments will cost millions of jobs this year alone. Those losses will be added up on top of the millions more not car-related firings, and there will come a point, and soon, when something breaks in the chain that cannot be mended easily, if it can at all.

America has been consuming a lot more than it has been producing for years now. What makes today stand out from what has been before is that what we are now witnessing is that the consequences of overconsumption are starting to further deplete production, and with a vengeance. The government is losing its grip at lightning speed, even though you would of course never know from their public utterances. Don't underestimate the possibility that they have reached the same conclusion that people like Stoneleigh and I did quite a while ago, that there is no way back, no recovery anywhere is sight. If that were so, and you would be in their shoes, what would you do?

I can tell you what their choice is: keep up the semblance of normality as long as possible, while behind the curtains frantic efforts are taking place to save and safeguard as much as possible for themselves and their own people. And no, you are not among their own people, you are not Obama's people. to know whose people you are, look around you in your homes, your towns and you families.

Take another good look at those home prices, and the beat of the trendlines they move to. We’ve seen them lose 31% nationwide so far, much more in some specific places. And the "experts" are still looking for bottoms predicted by "fair value" and "3 times income" and data like that. Those data no longer apply. There is absolutely nothing at all, other than them, that provide any indication that prices are about to stabilize. US home sales depend on one source of financing, and one only: your money, provided through the government and its Fannie, Freddie, FHA and FHLB agencies. Without them, where would prices be? It would make you shudder to know where.

The nation, and its economy, along with much of the -western- world economy, would have already fallen to bits and shreds and pieces if not for the full faith and credit of what the taxes on your labor will provide as revenue to the state. However, you will desperately need the fruits of your labor to pay off your debts. That is, if there are any monetary fruits of your labor. The fact that production capacity utilization is at its lowest point in at least 42 years doesn't bode well. While you are getting poorer by the day, the future of the nation rests on you getting richer.

And try to understand the following, and never lose sight of it: the only way your government has on offer to provide you with a job that will pay you actual revenues, as in anything above the red line, with which you can pay off your debts or even make any future purchases, is by using your own money to lift production, and capacity utilization, to a degree at which some enterprise would wish to employ you.

That is at best zero-sum, but more likely, with 99.9% certainty, a losing proposition as temporary as the leaves of spring you see on the trees around you.. Look at it this way: everything you've seen go wrong in the economy so far has been like kindergarten. Now you're going to have to learn how to read.


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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:43 AM
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28. Allow me to interpret this little blurb...
"The Federal Reserve has said it remains "focused like a laser beam" on finding ways to stimulate the economy that do not fuel inflation. Ben Bernanke, Fed chairman, said earlier this month that he was working on plans to avert inflation in the event that recent tentative signs of economic stabilization morph into recovery."

This means that the Fed and Washington are still operating on the premise that 'Increasing Wages and Decreasing Unemployment are INFLATIONARY and must be avoided at all costs.' Now, I know I'm preaching to the choir here in the WEE, but, there may be readers who are unaware that this has been the plan and THE ONLY PLAN all along for dealing with the economic crisis. They've been saying it in 'Code Speak' since this whole thing broke out. Where most of us that exist in the real world have been saying this is exactly the opposite of what SHOULD BE DONE.

Let's look at this failed plan, shall we?

It's why they've busted Unions in the Auto Sector.
It's why they've bailed out all Financial Sector entities at the expense of manufacturing.
It's why they've resisted every call and attempt at doing a bottom up relief plan of any sort.
It's why they've refused and beaten down any calls for job protections and import rules.

It's pretty obvious they've bought the whole 'Trickle-down Supply-side' horse manure hook-line-and-sinker... And it's going to sink us.

From the same TAE... http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 06:48 AM
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29. That's a Financial Times article
Edited on Sat May-16-09 07:01 AM by DemReadingDU
It is linked in The Automatic Earth website

5/15/09 US prices fall most since 1955
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/854d81ce-40c1-11de-8f18-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1


edit: It's all about keeping the citizens pacified, don't want to cause any panic. Of course, nothing they do is working. More people seem to be waking up, and more so will have eyes wide open when Chrysler and GM shut down leaving thousands (millions?) on unemployment.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:08 AM
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35. Yes, I was calling out Bernanke's quote third-hand.
But, TAE is where I saw it.

I've heard that "Inflation Fighting" code talk issuing from the Fed, Washington, and Other PTB several times lately and I wanted to comment on it while it was fresh in my mind.

The point being, to illustrate the Establisheds' complete disregard and even contempt for any demand side relief. The Supply-side junk is all they know... They can't even think any other way.

Somehow, they've gotten it into their minds that they are going to enact some sort of magical recovery (Jobless, perhaps?) and at the same time avoid the specter of 'Stagflation' and holding down the little guy is going to achieve that... Repair everything from the top.

The trouble is... Trickle-down doesn't work. Those Banks aren't trickling anything down. Not even free money!

TAE talks about that aspect here...

"I can tell you what their choice is: keep up the semblance of normality as long as possible, while behind the curtains frantic efforts are taking place to save and safeguard as much as possible for themselves and their own people. And no, you are not among their own people, you are not Obama's people. to know whose people you are, look around you in your homes, your towns and you families."

I wanted to emphasize that yes... We aren't their own people. In fact they see us and our very pressing needs as an inconvenient part of the problem.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:52 AM
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39. What I can't wrap my mind around is,
Just what the hell is their definition of a recovery? A couple of million more people are set to lose their jobs in the automobile and related industries. Never mind the ripple effect of no money and foreclosures.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 11:53 AM
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42. Never mind. Wrap your mitts around this!
:toast: Many Happy Returns!!! :party: According to MY handbook, when one gets as old as we are a 2 week party period is in order!!!
;-) :toast: :hug:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:26 PM
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43. Thank you!
You just can't get it all accomplished in one week any more!

:toast: :toast:

I guess I'd better take a run up to the best liquor store in the country.

They give free samples of selected brands! It's tough to get out of there.



:beer:
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:35 PM
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74. Seems like they have chosen the path....
deflation here we come. Unless you currently have a job and don't owe large amounts of money-count on economic slavery for you and yours in the future-unless folks get off their butts and hit the streets. We will slide into violent protest as our institution crumble under the weight of debt and this administration's failure to do what the voters put them in office for!!!!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 06:52 AM
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30. Ilargi has had some sobering thoughts all this week

Really gives one to pause and reflect just where are we as a nation going to be headed in a few months?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:13 AM
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41. The problems in the wordld today are so complex,
even teenagers don't have the answers.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 06:57 AM
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31. Has anyone reading here invested or thought of putting money in these? (I'm skeptical)
Maybe it's just me, but these ETF's that are being pushed as an alternative to Mutual Funds sound like another scam waiting to implode down the road. Just reading this gives me the shivers. Folks who have 401-K's are being told these are the hottest thing and save you fees. :eyes:

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How ETFs work?

by ETFZone staff

ETFs are securities certificates that state legal right of ownership over part of a basket of individual stock certificates. Several different kinds of financial firms are needed for ETFs to come into being, trade at prices that closely match their underlying assets, and unwind when investors no longer want them. Laying all the groundwork is the fund manager. This is the main backer behind any ETF, and they must submit a detailed plan for how the ETF will operate to be given permission by the SEC to proceed.

In theory all that a fund manager needs to do is establish clear procedures and describe precisely the composition of the ETF (which changes infrequently) to the other firms involved in ETF creation and redemption. In practice, however, only the very biggest institutional money management firms with experience in indexing tend to play this role, such as The Vanguard Group and Barclays Global Investors. They direct pension funds with enormous baskets of stocks in markets all over the world to loan stocks necessary for the creation process. They also create demand by lining up customers, either institutional or retail, to buy a newly introduced ETF.

The creation of an ETF officially begins with an authorized participant, also referred to as a market maker or specialist. Highly scrutinized for their integrity and operational competence, these middlemen assemble the appropriate basket of stocks and send them to a specially designated custodial bank for safekeeping. These baskets are normally quite large, sufficient to purchase 10,000 to 50,000 shares of the ETF in question. The custodial bank doublechecks that the basket represents the requested ETF and forwards the ETF shares on to the authorized participant. This is a so-called in-kind trade of essentially equivalent items that does not trigger capital gains for investors.


The custodial bank holds the basket of stocks in the fund's account for the fund manager to monitor. There isn't too much activity in these accounts, but some cash comes into them for dividends and there are a variety of oversight tasks to perform. Some managers have leeway to use derivatives to track an index.

This flow of individual stocks and ETF certificates goes through the Depository Trust Clearing Corp., the same US government agency that records individual stock sales and keeps the official record of these transactions. It records ETF transfer of title just like any stock. It provides an extra layer of assurance against fraud. :wow: (Would anyone believe this?)

Once the authorized participant obtains the ETF from the custodial bank, it is free to sell it into the open market. From then on ETF shares are sold and resold freely among investors on the open market.

Redemption is simply the reverse. An authorized participant buys a large block of ETFs on the open market and sends it to the custodial bank and in return receives back an equivalent basket of individual stocks which are then sold on the open market or typically returned to their loanees.

What motivates each player? The fund manager takes a small portion of the fund's annual assets as their fee, clearly stated in the prospectus available to all investors. The investors who loan stocks to make up a basket make a small interest fee for the favor. The custodial bank makes a small portion of assets likewise, usually paid for by the fund manager out of management fees. The authorized participant is primarily driven by profits from the difference in price between the basket of stocks and the ETF and on part of the bid-ask spread of the ETF itself. Whenever there is an opportunity to earn a little by buying one and selling the other, the authorized participant will jump in.

The process might seem cumbersome but it does allow for transparency and liquidity at modest cost. Everyone can see what goes into an ETF, investor fees are clearly laid out, investors can be confident that they can exit at any time, and even the authorized participant's fees are guaranteed to be modest. If one allows ETF prices to deviate from the underlying net asset value of the component stocks, another can step in and take profit on the difference, so their competition tends to keep ETF prices very close to it underlying Net Asset Value (value of component stocks).

http://finance.yahoo.com/etf/education/01
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 07:09 AM
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32. Martin Weiss seems to be talking more about ETFs

Over at his website, maybe there is info for you. I don't know anything about them.

http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/topic/issues/2009-issues/
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 08:42 AM
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34. Good Morning, All!
I have just worked from midnight to 9:30 am, so I'm going to get some shuteye now....incisive and troubling articles above, just keep posting.

Maybe we should have a pool for when the penny drops and Obama gets a clue on the economy?

Why does every useful piece of legislation have to be dragged backwards through a keyhole to get passed?

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop?

Keep on keeping on...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:24 AM
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36. Thanks, Demeter....
You are a treasure for doing all this. Enjoy your snooze...and may Camelot give you pleasant dreams.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:33 AM
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37. We could have a pool on Geithner's resignation.
Just a thought.

Sleep well. I got up at 4:30.




TG
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 12:42 PM
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44. I'm Afraid Geithner Is Like the Guest Who Never Leaves
He'll have to be thrown out.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:24 PM
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55. Okay, so a pool on his departure. Date and time of announcement?
Maybe?


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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:29 PM
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56. Sure! Place Your Bets Here! Date Geithner Gets Canned
Pick any day between now and November 2012 elections. I don't think we ought to try for the exact time...

I'm worried that it won't happen at all--but remember that if it cannot continue, it will not!

I will be keeping book in my journal by updating this entry, and posting every weekend.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:13 PM
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65. It'll never happen.
The Triad is just too tight.

That's not to say he won't be sent to the Cornfield and rendered a figurehead.

What I really want to know is when the Car Czar guy is gonna go...

Y'know the fixer Andrew is after.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 07:32 PM
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79. Sadly...I have to agree...much as I would wish otherwise...n/t
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:35 AM
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38. Hi Di Ho, weekender's
:toast: I just have time for a drive by kick. I have state reports due Monday so I am working very hard this weekend (and all this week too-on top of seeing all those kids in the clinic). Well I got my job performance eval this week. Got an exceeds expectations in all categories but you no these days-all those glowing reviews and a dollar still won't get you a cup of coffee. And around here it won't get you a merit raise if you are a School Nurse. That has chapped a lot of the School Nurses. I have never seen so many job openings this early (for the next school year). It will be interesting to check in August to see what they have open. Those that have under five years are leaving and those close to retirement are leaving as soon as they can. I have a few more years left but I am exploring other options shall we say.

Any way, catch you on the flip side.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:11 AM
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40. FBI probes possible insider trading by SEC staff
They wouldn't do this would they? Who'da thunk it?


FBI probes possible insider trading by SEC staff
Inspector general sees suspicious pattern in activity of two agency lawyers


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30766604/


WASHINGTON - Federal prosecutors and the FBI have been investigating possible illegal insider trading by two Securities and Exchange Commission enforcement attorneys who were in a position to receive sensitive information about agency probes of public companies.

The SEC's inspector general, David Kotz, found that the frequent stock trades over a two-year period by the pair raised suspicions of insider trading. Earlier this year, he referred the matter to the Fraud and Public Corruption Section of the U.S. attorney's office in Washington.

That office, together with the FBI, "is conducting an investigation of possible criminal and civil violations," Kotz told SEC Chairman Mary Schapiro in a memo dated March 3

The memo and Kotz's report of his investigation were provided by the office of Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who has been an active critic of the SEC's operations.

Kotz's report also found that the SEC "has essentially no compliance system in place to ensure that ... employees, with the tremendous amount of nonpublic information they have at their disposal, do not engage in insider trading themselves." The agency's disclosure and compliance requirements is based on the honor system and there is no way to determine whether an employee fails to report a transaction.

"We take seriously even the suggestion that any SEC employee would engage in insider trading," according to a statement from the agency. "We note that the (inspector general's) report neither accuses any SEC employee of insider trading nor concludes that any such conduct took place."

(More)

"SEC attorneys are supposed to spend their time trying to prosecute insider trading, not profit from it," Grassley said in a statement Friday. " :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:32 PM
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46. The Worst Is Yet to Come
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2009/05/worst-is-yet-to-come.html

...Last night in speaking with a youngish acquaintance just completing law school (another one, alas) who was looking for advice on long term investments we observed that now is the time to remain liquid because 'the worst is yet to come.'

In 1999 I began an intense study of market bubbles and crashes as mentioned before. This included buying contemporary magazines and newspapers and reading them to see what was going through people's minds.

Today reminds me of the briefly sunny period in 1930-1 when most economists and public officials agreed that the Depression was already over and the economy was back on track. President Hoover dismissed a delegation of businessmen who came to Washington with ideas on stabilizing the economy with "Too late gentlemen, the slump is over."

There are few things from my childhood that I remember more vividly than grandmother's comments regarding this false recovery. "If we knew what was coming, we would have killed ourselves." This from as strong a person as I have ever encountered, with a faith that would break rocks. The Great Depression left an indelible mark, or more accurately scar, on her entire family, and my father's as well.

And I never heard the name "Franklin Roosevelt" from her lips without it being preceded by "God bless" followed by "he saved my family." Not all of her children unfortunately. She said she cried so much and so often that she was never able to cry again. And she did not, even at the end.

Of course it was the second half of the great stock decline after the 1929 Crash that did the most damage, because this is when the carnage moved from financial assets and the banks into the real economy, with unemployment rising to 25% into the trough of the Depression in 1930.

Roosevelt came into office and began spending and innovating with programs to attempt to mitigate the impact of the economic collapse on America's families. Other countries, such as Italy, German and Japan, made their own political choices. We need to bear in mind that America itself came perilously close to a genuine brand fascism, and not the cartoon caricature presidential overreach cited by the corporate elites of the day. Hitler and Mussolini were the solutions proposed by the industrialists, they were their men, and they bankrolled them heavily.

And so here we are. What comes next is anyone's guess. But by now you should be accepting and internalizing the general themes, including the devaluation of the dollar down to levels that are probably still not believable, an activist central government nationalizing key industries, civil unrest and agitation, and a confusing cacophony of hysterical mumbo jumbo coming from media whores and corrupt officials.

The crisis is not over. We have just finished the beginning, the easy part, the initial collapse of the bubble. The worst is yet to come.

Watch the video of this commentary from Howard Davidowitz linked below if you get an opportunity. His delivery is priceless New York style.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:34 PM
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47. "The Worst Is Yet to Come": If You're Not Petrified, You're Not Paying Attention
CONTINUATION OF POST

The green shoots story took a bit of hit this week between data on April retail sales, weekly jobless claims and foreclosures. But the whole concept of the economy finding its footing was "preposterous" to begin with, says Howard Davidowitz, chairman of Davidowitz & Associates.

"We're in a complete mess and the consumer is smart enough to know it," says Davidowitz, whose firm does consulting for the retail industry. "If the consumer isn't petrified, he or she is a damn fool."

Davidowitz, who is nothing if not opinionated (and colorful), paints a very grim picture: "The worst is yet to come with consumers and banks," he says. "This country is going into a 10-year decline. Living standards will never be the same."

This outlook is based on the following main points:

With the unemployment rate rising into double digits - and that's not counting the millions of "underemployed" Americans - consumers are hitting the brakes, which is having a huge impact, given consumer spending accounts for about 70% of economic activity.

Rising unemployment and the $8 trillion negative wealth effect of housing mean more Americans will default on not just mortgages but student loans and auto loans and credit card debt.

More consumer loan defaults will hit banks, which are also threatened by what Davidowitz calls a "depression" in commercial real estate, noting the recent bankruptcy of General Growth Properties and distressed sales by Developers Diversified and other REITs.

As for all the hullabaloo about the stress tests, he says they were a sham and part of a "con game to get private money to finance these institutions because can't get more money from Congress. It's the ‘greater fool' theory."

"We're now in Barack Obama's world where money goes into the most inefficient parts of the economy and we're bailing everyone out," says Daviowitz, who opposes bailouts for financials and automakers alike. "The bailout money is in the sewer and gone."
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:35 PM
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60. Howard Davidowitz!


"If You're Not Petrified, You're Not Paying Attention"


He has never minced any words.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:27 PM
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73. You know any - well, most - videos - I find on here, and indeed elsewhere that criticises
Edited on Sun May-17-09 01:27 PM by Joe Chi Minh
the great malefactors of our society and their works, the volume is always too low for me to hear, when I have my settings at the upper limits. Or simply unobtainable. Even though I am somewhat deaf, I find that curious. Not.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:37 PM
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48. Credit Card Defaults Reach Record Highs in April
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:53 PM
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49. America’s phobia of banks (Andrew Jackson's Story)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/691adbae-40db-11de-8f18-00144feabdc0.html


{T}ake a look at the $20 bill. For there, breaking into the space separating the words “Federal” from “Reserve” is the cresting mane of Andrew Jackson, the most hair-conscious president of the United States. Aside from cultivating his pompadour as the insignia of a free frontier spirit, his locks tied in an eelskin, the seventh US president was also the sworn enemy of paper currency and central banking.

Jackson, who was in the White House from 1829-1837, was a new brand of politician in American life. No one would confuse him with the Virginian gentlemen-planters who had dominated high office in the early republic. He had been Indian fighter, scourge of the British and darling of the frontier crowds. But what really got his dander up was the Bank of the United States, the institution granted the monopoly to print paper money. The “Monster”, he declared at the height of his presidential knock-down battle with its president Nicholas Biddle, “wants to kill me but I will kill it”.

And destroy the Bank of the United States Jackson did, vetoing the Senate’s renewal of its charter in 1832 and running for re-election as the champion of People v Monster. The result of the liquidation of monetary regulation was predictable: wildcat speculation. Two months after Jackson left office in March 1837, the second of the great American financial meltdowns was under way (the first was in 1819). Another swiftly followed in 1839 under the administration of Jackson’s hand-picked successor, Martin Van Buren. On the eve of the civil war, Jackson’s wish for monetary decentralisation had come true beyond his wildest dreams There were 7,000 local currencies circulating in the republic and an epidemic of counterfeiting. It took Lincoln’s Banking Act of 1862, born of a desperate need for dependable credit to fight the war, for a modicum of monetary order to be salvaged from what Biddle had accurately prophesied would be monetary anarchy.

OTHERS HAVE NOTED THAT THE ROTHCHILDS GREW WEALTHY PROVIDING BANKING FOR KINGS TO GO TO WAR--AND EVEN ENCOURAGED WAR FOR THEIR PROFIT!


Jackson, as John Meacham’s recent, elegantly written and excessively generous biography reminds us, was an exceptional figure in American politics in many ways: in his repellent enthusiasm for the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans, his dismissal of inconvenient Supreme Court opinions and his certainty that he was the incarnation of popular democracy in heroic action. This armour-plated egotism allowed him to brush off a Congressional vote of censure as if it were an affront to the American people. (It had been provoked by his attempt to bleed the Bank to death by diverting Treasury deposits to local state banks). The fact that enthusiasts of a central bank – from Alexander Hamilton who had created the first in 1791 – to Jackson’s enemy Biddle, were admirers of the Bank of England, only reinforced the conviction of the veteran general that such institutions were damnably un-American. Whether his bankophobia was the cause of his re-election in 1832 is open to debate but there is no doubt that in his mistrust of paper currency and his almost paranoid suspicion of the Bank’s monopoly of issue, Jackson tapped into a pulsing vein of American insecurity about the moral character of money.

Europeans and other foreigners in the 19th and 20th centuries had become so accustomed to characterising Americans as being in thrall to the Almighty Dollar, that they sometimes neglected to notice a strain of national schizophrenia on the subject of pecuniary wealth. Generation after generation, preachers, newspapermen and frontier politicians fervently railed against the poison of cupidity and the citadels of the eastern seaboard where Big Money ruled. From the time around 1790, when Thomas Jefferson, that lyricist of the agrarian life (as long as slaves did the heavy lifting), attempted to persuade President George Washington that Alexander Hamilton’s plan for a central bank was a threat to American liberties, the tripwire of suspicion about banks, especially central banks, has seldom stopped humming.

Fortunately for the directors of Bank of America and Citibank, Barack Obama has few of Jackson’s allergies to what “Old Hickory” reviled as the “monied aristocracy”. But then, so far as I know, Obama hasn’t been burned by paper transactions the way Jackson was.

In the 1790s the track to success for any ambitious young man on the frontier was through land speculation, the law or soldiering and Jackson had done all three. In 1795 he spent three weeks in Philadelphia trying to sell a property of some thousands of acres of frontier prime. Eventually, he found a buyer who paid with a promissory note. Short of supplies, Jackson purchased cartloads with the endorsed note. Not long after, the suppliers of those goods informed him that his buyer’s bankruptcy now made him liable for the balance of the note. The debt crushed Jackson’s economic prospects for a long while and left him with an abiding mistrust of paper instruments of exchange.

Like Jefferson, who in almost every other respect was a more sophisticated mind, Jackson came to believe paper money at best an unreliable creature of financial whim (those depending on it never sure how much it might be discounted), and at worst the choice tool of a conspiracy to enslave through debt. Silver coin had circulated through the country both before and after independence, and Jackson, as authentically populist as his campaign advertising, preferred, for transactions, something on which one could bite.

So the president wilfully misled the country about the evils of the monopolistic Bank of the United States, claiming not only was it an unconstitutional interposition between the elected government and the people but that it had failed in its responsibility to establish a sound paper currency throughout the republic. In fact, in the unstable conditions of America in the 1830s, the paper of the Bank of the United States was by far the most dependable medium of transactions from Maine to Louisiana. But Jackson was convinced that unless the Bank perished, American democracy would always be infected by its machinations. What was at stake was the battle of rural and urban values for the economic soul of America. In some ways this was almost as momentous as the struggle between the slave south and the free north for it went to the heart of what America was supposed to be: a place where simplicity and transparency ruled in small moral communities, or a self-energising machine of unlimited economic growth and power: Field of Dreams or Citizen Kane?

Jefferson, whose apostle Jackson claimed to be, had set the tone by seeing in the wholesomeness of the country the purest forms of social virtue. “Those who labour in the earth are the chosen of God,” he declared in one of his striking excursions into piety. The cities, on the other hand, were “pestilential” swamps of seductive luxury .

But Jackson went further than his cynosure. He was not so naive as to imagine the indebtedness incurred by two American wars against the British would somehow retire itself, and understood, after a fashion, the indispensability of a central bank in managing the securities without which the US government would not have been able to conduct its public business. (A quarter of the debt was held by foreigners.) But he also believed that the Treasury, under the control of elected appointees, was the more democratic office to see to these obligations. So Jackson made the liquidation of the Bank of the United States a centrepiece of his presidency.

Along with the destruction of the Bank, Jackson hoped to rid the republic of what he insisted was the great paper currency swindle. In his farewell address, the outgoing president dealt eloquently with the need to preserve the Union against north-south sectionalism that threatened to undo it. But the subject to which he most passionately warmed was “the paper money system”. “Recent events”, he told the American people (referring to his struggle with Biddle), “have proved that the paper money system may be used as an engine to undermine your free institutions ... those who desire to ... govern by corruption or force are aware of its power and prepared to employ it.”

Paper encouraged speculation; speculation enslaved citizens to the bank monopolists, and those who got hurt were “the bone and sinew” of the country, “men who love liberty and desire nothing but equal rights and equal laws”, “the agricultural, mechanical and labouring classes of society”. The stranglehold exercised by a central bank, which could make “money plenty or scarce at its pleasure”, was a “despotic sway” that made American liberties, well, not worth the paper they were printed on. The Bank of the United States was dead but woe betide the US should ever a successor arise again, as the agency through which “the monied interest” could tyrannise the honest majority!

That successor – the Federal Reserve to whose good faith and credit Jackson now lends his face – was a long time coming, not established until 1913. The powers that Jackson thought subverted the liberties of the “honest” many – the ability to regulate the money supply – are now deemed indispensable to our financial survival. The difference is that while the Fed is a public institution (OH NO IT'S NOT!), the Bank of the United States was not. However, Jackson would still disapprove of the very quality we most prize in the Fed: its independence from the Treasury. For Jackson, political and financial accountability had to be one and the same in a true democracy. But the creation of the Fed on the eve of the first world war owed a good deal to the survival of Jacksonian rhetoric against the “monied interest”. Although JP Morgan and John Rockefeller had acted in a public-spirited manner – supplying the wherewithal to prevent a total collapse of the financial system in 1907, Morgan losing $21m during the turmoil – there was concern over the closed-doors nature of their deliberations and the suspicion persisted in the country that the crisis had been concocted so that the moguls could get their hands on the Tennessee Coal and Iron Company at knock-down rates.

Paradoxically, the gold that Jackson had thought to be the common man’s defence against plutocratic fraud was now the target of populist wrath. Once again, it came down to country against city, the farm against the bank. Still very much a net importer of capital, the US, as JP Morgan saw it, would flourish and grow only as long as it could attract foreign, especially British investment. As a debtor, the government was dependent on the credibility of its bond market. Only a dollar pegged to gold, Wall Street and a tight money policy could guarantee those funds, the lifeblood of nascent American commercial and industrial growth. What was the alternative? A currency cheapened by the remonetisation of silver or, heaven forbid, the untamed greenback, would pump up inflation, depreciating any returns on investment. The turn-off for the Rothschilds, Barings and Grenfells would be catastrophic.

The opposite held true in the heartland. Over-production had depressed crop prices and multitudes of homesteaders went under. And out of their distress, out of the West, came a vision and a voice. The vision was for a bimetallic currency; silver coin loosening the supply without running the dangers of a currency destabilised by paper. Silver lodes had been discovered in Nevada and Colorado, in God’s own country, just waiting to be minted. The fact that a year before in 1895, Morgan had sorted out a sudden depletion of gold reserves by negotiation with a mostly foreign syndicate of suppliers, pocketing a fat commission, only made matters worse.

Into the lists against Republican presidential candidate William McKinley rode the goldbugs’ worst nightmare: an impassioned admirer of Andrew Jackson, the small town Nebraska lawyer, lay preacher and Congressman William Jennings Bryan. He was, those who heard him on the Chautauqua evangelical circuit or in Congress said, the most astounding orator they had ever encountered. And Bryan was a Democrat. Before he transformed the party it was an organisation of losers. Only one of its number, Grover Cleveland, had made it to the White House since the civil war and he was a staunch goldbug. But at their Chicago Convention in July 1896, Bryan – even though he would lose the election – revolutionised the Democrats, turning them into the party that would embody the cause of the Common Man in tough times: the party of Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson and Obama.

Go to YouTube and you can hear Bryan deliver the speech – or rather a performance of it made four years before his death in 1925 – thought by many to be the greatest in American history. Rich and melodious though the recording is, it can’t hope to reproduce the electrifying oratory at Chicago. Bryan followed a demagogic rant from a South Carolinan racist, and then a woebegone goldbug apologia. The mood was depressed. Bounding to the stage in a baggy-trousered black alpaca suit came Bryan. “I come to speak to you in defence of a cause as holy as liberty – that of humanity.” (Lyndon Johnson would nearly plagiarise those words introducing the Voting Rights Act of 1965). The gold standard was the millstone that one part of America had set about the neck of the other. The claim of its champions, of the Republicans, was that they were the party of business. But “the man who is employed for wages is as much a businessman as his employer, the attorney in a country town is as much a businessman as the corporation counsel in a great metropolis; the merchant at the crossroads store is as much a businessman as the merchant of New York ... the miners who go down a thousand feet into the earth or climb 2,000 feet upon the cliffs and bring forth from their hiding places the precious metals to be poured into the channels of trade are as much businessmen as the ... magnates, who, in a back room, corner the money of the world.”

It was an American work of art, this speech; as native to its dark soil as Whitman’s verse or Twain’s fierce ribaldry. It was landscape, social drama and religion all poured into the same hot mould of patriotic social pride. The crowd that heard it saw the cornfields and the prairie pastures in Bryan’s rolling cadences; then he took them aloft over a continent of social pain. It was gold, the stuff of the Midases of Wall Street, that was inflicting this suffering. What did those who hoarded it know of the true America of sweat and prayer? By the famous peroration, Bryan had given the Democratic party, victorious or not, their new gospel. To the Midases “we will answer their demand for a gold standard by saying to them, ‘You shall not press down upon the brow of labour this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.’” Shameless, transported by the gospel truth, Bryan stopped, took some steps back and then, arms out, assumed the posture of the martyred Saviour. Then the din broke over him.

We have, lest it be forgotten, another serious Christian in the White House; another president who, for all the cool threads, winds up his rhetorical passions to speak for Plain Folk. Sure, he won New York. But he also won Indiana. And, unlike Jackson, and unlike Bryan, Obama has never wanted to wage war on the Monied Interests. His inclinations for taking it to Wall Street are a lot less combative than Franklin Roosevelt’s. Obama is trans-racial, trans-sectional, trans-ideological. He believes in a great national cuddle. Whether in the hard times that, for all this financially budding spring, are certain to lie ahead, he can actually be transformational, and make – as American history yearns for him to do – money moral again, remains, as you knew I would say, to be seen.

Simon Schama is the author of ‘The American Future’ (Bodley Head) and a contributing editor of the FT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeTkT5-w5RA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckpuylgkyIs
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 01:56 PM
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50. China Power Production Fell 3.9% in Early May
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNqEbScHtIgo

May 15 (Bloomberg) -- China's electricity production in early May fell 3.9 percent from a year earlier, the China Securities Journal reported today, citing unidentified sources at China State Grip Corp.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:02 PM
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51. Is the System Still Rigged? by Leo Kolivakis, publisher of Pension Pulse.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/05/guest-post-is-system-still-rigged.html

AFTER LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF RIGGING AND WRONGS AND OBAMA COMES THIS CONCLUSION:

....Finally, I don't know or care if the world's power elite is meeting Athens plotting to sink the global economy. I have been reading Charlie Skelton's Bilderberg files, mostly for amusement, but my thoughts are that any attempt to stop rigging the system and truly democratize finance will have to come from the bottom-up, not the top-down.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:12 PM
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52. Thought Police I: More Analysis of NPR Trying to Discredit Elizabeth Warren
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/05/thought-police-i-more-analysis-of-npr.html

The Columbia Journalism Review takes apart an interview by Adam Davidson of NPR's Planet Money, which we linked to earlier this week and caused some consternation among readers who listened to the program. Davidson took a combative stance towards Warren, painted her as out to get the banking industry and out of step with mainstream America (really? most Americans are as disgusted with the practices of credit card companies as she is). He also interrupted her repeatedly.

CJR also makes a broader point: the media has been trying to marginalize Warren in a completely different fashion, by simply refusing to cover her.

The CJR points out that no banking industry executive would have been treated this way, and it's 100% correct. What it fails to note that it isn't just becoming standard practice to question liberals merely for being liberal, suggesting that a diversity of views is a bad thing. And frankly, women are easier to take on. It's socially acceptable to interrupt them, which can throw off one's line of thought. In court, it's a tactic of counsel to raise a lot objections to throw off opposing counsel. Even the mild mannered Charlie Rose at point in an interview Naomi Klein questioned he at points in a way that he seldom does (making faces and interrupting her) but threw softballs to financial industry stalwarts like Timothy Geithner and Morgan Stanely CEO John Mack. In a interview with Elizabeth Warren, he was did not challenge her but did set some snares that she did not walk into.

From the Columbia Journalism Review (hat tip reader Doug):

A couple of times in the last few months I’ve taken the press to task for ignoring the Congressional Oversight Panel and its report on the TARP. I’ve talked to reporters in the biz since and got the impression that many of them don’t really take it seriously because its chairwoman Elizabeth Warren is a liberal who, they say, pushes her agenda.

So it’s worth listening to this entire Planet Money podcast from NPR, where Adam Davidson badgers Warren for more than an hour to justify her existence, so to speak.

If you want a peek inside business-press mentality, and why certain stories get reported and others don’t, you can do worse than start here. It sees Warren as an outlier whose views, based on decades of research, are suspicious. It would never, ever have badgered a former bank exec, say, like this if one had been chairman of the panel. Davidson, like the reporters I referenced above, has been talking to too many bankers and insiders who sneer at someone not inside their bubble. Perhaps he’s trying to prove his objective journalist bona fides at “liberal” NPR by taking it to a liberal.

Warren isn’t legitimate in the eyes of the press, so it just pretty much ignores her—even though she and her co-panelists were selected by Congress to oversee whether the Treasury is spending the $700 billion we gave it in a way that’s best for the economy.

This interview is really cringeworthy stuff from Davidson, who comes out looking pretty bad (which makes it all the more admirable that NPR runs the entire tape). Warren takes this fight going away.

I don’t have a complete transcript of the show but I typed up some of it...

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/so_thats_why_the_press_wont_co_1.php
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:13 PM
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53. "How to handle a woman?"

ARTHUR:

"How to handle a woman?
There's a way," said the wise old man,
"A way known by ev'ry woman
Since the whole rigmarole began."
"Do I flatter her?" I begged him answer.
"Do I threaten or cajole or plead?
Do I brood or play the gay romancer?"
Said he, smiling: "No indeed.
How to handle a woman?
Mark me well, I will tell you, sir:
The way to handle a woman
Is to love her...simply love her...
Merely love her...love her...love her."


WE LOVE YOU, ELIZABETH WARREN! KEEP ON KEEPING ON!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 04:36 PM
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64. Bryn Terfel Sings!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:43 PM
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62. NPR has posted the full unedited interview


5/12/09 NPR has posted the full interview

Several of you have asked to hear the full interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel.
We talked about it, thought about it, and decided to post it.
It is full and unedited, so there are not the normal intros, outros and transitions. It's just the raw tape.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2009/05/the_full_warren_interview.html


direct link to interview
http://www.npr.org/blogs/globalpoolofmoney/images/2009/05/warren.mp3
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:24 PM
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54. Gah! The Dismal Science, Indeed! I Need a Break!
I think some calories are in order. Come back tonight or tomorrow as we continue to shovel the muck in the American political economy.


NIMUE:
Far from day, far from night,
Out of time, out of sight,
In between earth and sea,
We shall fly; follow me.
Dry the rain, warm the snow;
Where the winds never go
Follow me, follow me, follow me
To a cave by a sapphire shore
Where we'll walk through an emerald door,
And for thousands of breathless evermores my life you shall be.
Only you, only I,
World farewell, world goodbye.
To our home 'neath the sea
We shall fly; follow me.
Follow me, follow me, follow me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J89Ta837NyE&feature=related
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:31 PM
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57. In Their Own Words - Economic Quotes
From Chris Martenson's website






(1)

"At this juncture . . . the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime markets seems likely to be contained,"

Ben Bernanke, March 28, 2007
in a statement to Congress’ joint economic committee


(2)

"It is not the responsibility of the Federal Reserve - nor would it be appropriate - to protect lenders and investors from the consequences of their financial decisions.“

Ben Bernanke, October 15th, 2007


(3)

" has a strong labor force, excellent productivity and technology, and a deep and liquid financial market that is in the process of repairing itself.”

Ben Bernanke, January 18, 2008


(4)

“The long-term fundamentals of our economy are strong," but "e believe the economy is going to continue to grow slowly here. This is not an emergency.“

Hank Paulson January 18, 2008


5)

" is fundamentally strong, diverse and resilient.“

Hank Paulson, February 14th, 2008


(6)

'The worst is likely to be behind us . . . . ”

Hank Paulson, May 7, 2008


(7)

On Freddie and Fannie: “They will make it through the storm”, "… in no danger of failing.","…adequately capitalized“ (two months later they were nationalized)

Ben Bernanke, July 16th, 2008


(8)

"I think all of our efforts, so far, have produced results. … And I think as those green shoots begin to appear in different markets and as some confidence begins to come back that will begin the positive dynamic that brings our economy back. … I do see green shoots"

Ben Bernanke, March 15, 2009


And:

“What you’re starting to see is glimmers of hope across the economy.”

President Obama, April 10, 2009


(9)

"I think the sense of a ball falling off the table -- which is what the economy has felt like since the middle of last fall -- I think we can be reasonably confident that that's going to end within the next few months and you will no longer have that sense of free-fall,"

Lawrence Summers, April 8, 2009


(10)

“We are hopeful that the very sharp decline we saw beginning last fall through early this year will moderate considerably in the near term and we will see positive growth by the end of the year,"

Ben Bernanke, May 5, 2009
to the Joint Economic Committee


and

"The recent data ... suggest that the pace of contraction may be slowing, and they include some tentative signs that final demand, especially demand by households, may be stabilizing,“

Ben Bernanke, May 5, 2009
to the Joint Economic Committee


More to follow as time goes on.....
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/their-own-words/18959
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:33 PM
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59. A Gem! Thank You!
I notice no Geithner quotes...canny bastard trying to stay in his post?
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:38 PM
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61. Hm, maybe they are in the next version

:shrug:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 02:32 PM
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58. Preview for Next Weekend Economist: Star Trek Meets Camelot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc

The things you find on line! :rofl:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 05:59 PM
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66. I Have Seen Camelot Performed Live Twice
The first time was local equity performance, and the actor played Arthur as a bumbling buffoon, lost in the part he was playing. I think he was channeling a different Arthur, the drunk.

The second performance I saw starred Leonard Nimoy, playing Arthur as a Lincolnesque figure of tragedy, knowing he was doomed, but still struggling to keep it all from going to pieces. He was a tender, strong, and intelligent King, done in by the lesser people around him and the way they manipulated his life.

Neither actor had a queen worthy of the part, although they were pretty enough. I expect that's the problem with queens anyway.

In many ways, we are the stories we tell, to ourselves and others, and the stories we listen to and retell guide our daily choices. What is the Bible, but a book of stories about people, living their lives, and the consequences thereof? So too the texts of other religions. That's why art matters, and good art is vital to a culture.

Lately, our culture has been awash in truly ghastly stories. They disgust, and that's about all. They corrupt us with their violence, squalor, sadism and pointlessness. Greed is not a plotline, it's a character flaw, but some people take it as their Holy Grail. Others go for the blood and gore, the thrill of the kill. This is no way to raise up a culture!.

The largest story of our time, the Bush Family Evil Empire, is such a big story that it's hard to wrap our minds about it or follow the mass of twisting plot lines. That story isn't over yet, either. After at least 3 generations, it may never be over. And I find that the most depressing thought ever.

I think that Revenge will be the theme of this new century. I think it is preordained by the evils of the past century. Now that we have instantaneous communication and data storage through the technology of the web and the personal, portable computer, there won't be many secrets larger than one person, and there are a lot of people whose lives and families have been Holocausted by the BFEE. The Bush Family and their minions forget that Nazis have been hunted for 64 years now, and only the death of that last identified, least of Hitler's gang will truly end the vengeance. Then the property settlements, which have been getting traction lately, and finally the discovery and documentation of the true history will finish that tale.

Intellectual rigor and honesty are all that keep us on track.

End of sermon.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 08:12 PM
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67. Has Roubini been compromised?
A couple of months ago, I'd have taken his word as gospel. Now I'm not so sure.


About 6 weeks ago, I noticed that his tone changed considerably. He started sounding just like Bernanke. I guess I'm not the only one to notice.

Over at Automatic Earth

http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/

Saturday, May 16, 2009
May 16 2009: Living standards will never be the same


Ilargi: What can you say when two of the brightest so far turn on a dime, change their tack 180 degrees and start talking recovery, growth in China and in emerging economies, and the US economy overall being in a much better state than it was just a few months ago, all of it within reach of our hands that are still largely filled with riches? If they were right, this wouldn't be much of a downturn, would it? It'd all have been pretty smooth sailing, a trip down easy lane, and nothing a few trillion dollars the government takes from its citizens can't solve.

Howard Davidowitz must be, though perhaps secretly, relieved that he is so old most of the upcoming mayhem will pass him by. And maybe that's what makes him such a sharp shooter. Needless to say, he doesn't share the Roubini/Rogoff enthusiasm for fairy tale endings. Nor does he have a high opinion of present government policies: "We're now in Barack Obama's world where money goes into the most inefficient parts of the economy.... "

Roubini and Rogoff are now invited to the White House, embassies and think tanks to explain their visions, but in the process those visions have changed to such an extent that they are now useless, worthless and clueless. Both the visions and their proponents, that is. Listening to what they have to say has become a waste of time. Just jot down this somewhere: Roubini says the bottom of the "recession" will take place between November 2009 and February 2010. Rogoff calls an upward bounce in fall 2009, and "perhaps" another dip "in the next couple of years". Easy to check when we get to those points in time.

Today's point in time brings us not only the huge retreat into savings and less consuming that Davidowitz talks about. The government faces its two biggest challenges to date, a fact that all by itself is more than enough to dispel the myth that the worst is over and the bottom in sight. The once largest and most important company in the country as well as the richest and most populous state are simultaneously threatening to blow up in the face of Washington, and likely before summer is here. Saving California for a few months may be doable, but there are 49 other states in deep trouble, and there is no way they can all be bailed out. As for GM, winding that mess down in an orderly fashion will take years, and banks, jobs and scores of politicians will go down with it.

You can temporarily hide problems in your biggest banks by tinkering with accountancy laws and regulations, and by pumping trillions into them. GM, on the other hand, is about to blow up in the middle of Main Street, where everyone can see it. Davidowitz sums it up in a few words that tell teh whole stiry that everyone is so eager to avoid owning up to: "Living standards will never be the same"

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 08:31 PM
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68. "Living standards will never be the same"

I heard Davidowitz say that on NPR last summer. At least his message hasn't changed. Another favorite saying of Davidowitz:" The consumer is in survival mode."

Roubini? :wtf:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 10:09 AM
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70. The Most Inefficient Parts of the Economy Are the Predator Class and the Parasites
and that's where the money has been going.

I don't know why Roubini and Rogoff have changed their message--but there is a saying:

"He who pays the piper calls the tune."

Perhaps they decided if you can't fight them, join them. Perhaps they were made an offer they cannot or will not refuse. It wouldn't be the first time academic freedom was openly threatened by the government and/or co-opted.

Maybe they were fed bullshit data personally.

It's very sad. Two loud voices have switched sides against us.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 12:02 AM
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69. Kick!
For the morning
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:36 PM
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75. The sucker syndrome at the heart of frauds

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/yourmoney/45062107.html

After covering federal court over the years, I've learned one thing for sure: When it comes to investing, there's a sucker on every corner. And if you think you're not one of them, you're the biggest sucker of them all.

My hard drive is filling up with what I call "investment scam cases.'' Some of them are classic Ponzi schemes (think Bernie Madoff). Others, variations on a theme, often built off mortgage fraud or day trading or some pyramid-marketing ploy.

Why do people keep falling for these pitches year after year? These investors should get a brain!

As it turns out, their brains may be at the root of the problem. Recent research shows we're hard-wired to fall prey to investment frauds. Gullibility, it seems, resides in the limbic system, comprising several structures that sit atop the brain stem and serve as the gateway to the cerebral cortex, where higher reasoning occurs.
...
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 01:38 PM
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76. Local college graduates: Out of school, out of luck
http://www.startribune.com/local/45221042.html

ST. PETER, MINN. - In the simple chapel of Gustavus Adolphus College, Rebecca Carlson ponders the future as she and 600 classmates prepare to descend from the hilltop campus and enter the job market. Or not.

But like graduates at colleges across Minnesota and the nation, her mind quickly turns to the secular challenge of stepping off campus and into the worst economy in decades.

In two weeks, the largest graduating class in Gustavus history will receive their diplomas. Nationwide, the most graduates in a decade are about to compete for a supply of jobs that is far short of the demand.

Just 19.7 percent of 2009 grads who applied for a job have one so far, down from 51 percent at the same point in 2007, according to a new survey by the National Association of Colleges and Employers.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 06:30 PM
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77. so Much for the "Retrain Yourselves" Meme
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 06:37 PM
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78. Well, Our Little Family Went to See Star Trek and the Imax
Edited on Sun May-17-09 07:20 PM by Demeter
I'm not sure I like Imax, especially for that kind of movie, but it was "adequate". The melding of old and new was skillfully done. The actors were well chosen and if anything bigger hams than their originals.

The plot never let up, and it covered a lot of ground, the upshot is time travel. So at the end our intrepid Enterprise has skipped into an alternate reality, rather like getting a free game in pinball to start all over again.

Not sure how I feel about that, either. God help us if anybody actually invents time travel. Cue "A Sound of Thunder" short story. “A Sound of Thunder” is a science fiction short story by Ray Bradbury, first published in Collier’s magazine in 1952. It is the most re-published science fiction story of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sound_of_Thunder

Just in case it does happen, I've got a little list....

I'm so full of popcorn and explosions, I'm going to have to bow out of further posting tonight. Have a good week everyone, and join in on Memorial Day Weekend, when we get FOUR days of insanity! See you then!


ARTHUR:
Each evening, from December to December,
Before you drift to sleep upon your cot,
Think back on all the tales that you remember
Of Camelot.
Ask ev'ry person if he's heard the story,
And tell it strong and clear if he has not,
That once there was a fleeting wisp of glory
Called Camelot.
Camelot! Camelot!
Now say it out with pride and joy!

TOM:
Camelot! Camelot!

ARTHUR:
Yes, Camelot, my boy!
Where once it never rained till after sundown,
By eight a.m. the morning fog had flown...
Don't let it be forgot
That once there was a spot
For one brief shining moment that was known
As Camelot.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-17-09 07:55 PM
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80. I can hardly believe no one posted this one yet.
We're Knights of the Round Table.
We dance whene'er we're able.
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
We dine well here in Camelot.
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.
We're Knights of the Round Table.
Our shows are formidable,
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.
We're opera mad in Camelot.
We sing from the diaphragm a lot.

In war we're tough and able,
Quite indefatigable.
Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable.
It's a busy life in Camelot.

I have to push the pram a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0

(It's just model.)
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