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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:31 PM
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Attacks on Halliburton are "gutter politics"
Get off Halliburton's case! :cry:

http://reviewappeal.midsouthnews.com/news.ez?viewStory=21854&Form.sess_id=1230368&Form.sess_key=1084737017

WASHINGTON — An Internet ad is showing up on John Kerry Web sites attacking a U.S. contractor whose subsidiary workers are driving supply trucks in Iraq, and sometimes paying for it with their lives.

The ad shows a billboard sign emblazoned with the name "Halliburton," the multinational that has won several U.S. humanitarian contracts to help with Iraq's reconstruction. Next to the billboard picture is this caption: "For the first time in history, a corporation was allowed to invade a nation."

This is a low blow against an American corporation whose workers are sacrificing life and limb to help supply food, medicine and other critical rebuilding supplies to the Iraqi people.

Halliburton has become Kerry's favorite corporate whipping boy because of its association with Vice President Dick Cheney, who ran the oil supply company before George W. Bush asked him to join the 2000 ticket. A company subsidiary, KBR (formerly known as Kellogg), has truckers driving the roads of Iraq.


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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:34 PM
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1. Well, then, I'll see you in the gutter!
:evilgrin:
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:36 PM
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2. humanitarian contracts?
"'Halliburton,' the multinational that has won several U.S. humanitarian contracts"

I thought humanitarian acts were done out of the goodness of one's heart not for billions of dollars in profits.
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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:40 PM
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3. They were GIVEN the contracts, they didn't WIN the contracts. n/t
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:45 PM
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4. no kidding
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:53 PM
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:57 PM
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15. WHAT PART OF "NO BID" DIDN'T YOU
Edited on Mon May-17-04 04:02 PM by kaitykaity
UNDERSTAND?

GEEZ, I'M AFRAID FOR THIS COUNTRY. THE LEVEL
OF READING COMPREHENSION IS FRIGHTENINGLY LOW.
:PUKE:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:49 PM
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5. i'm sure halliburton does a few GOOD things as cover
they know how to play the game. some of what they do is legitimate work, some might even be charitable.

besides, no one's disputing the fact that the work they are doing NOW needs to be done, nor that it's dangerous.

at issue is the fact that halliburton pushed for the war, made a profit on the destruction, is making a profit on the rebuilding, got contracts without competition, and overcharged and even got caught overcharging at least once.


it's the same defence monopolists use. hey, the widget monopoly isn't bad, it brings you widgets, see? well, of course, no one disputes that the monopolist's product is in demand and that they supply it. that's not the point. the point is the lack of competition and the effect of that lack of competition.

with halliburton it's the cozy relationship with the vice-president, who STILL OWNS OPTIONS IN HALLIBURTON!!!!
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:04 PM
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10. The most damming fact ..

The most damming thing that doesn't get play is that Halliburton is systematically starving our troops of nutrition.

Halliburton get regular checks from Uncle Sam. But somehow, they can't pay their sub-contractors to feed the troops the protein they need to sustain muscle mass.

Bush is the WORST president in history as far as taking care of the troops. He slashes harzard and leave pay. He cuts veterans benefits. Closes VA hospitals. He forces returning troops with injuries to wait weeks for adequete treatment.

Additionally, he doesn't bother to spend any money on armor for humvees or flap jackets. They knew they were going to Iraq. There is absoluetly NO excuse for a single individual not being properly equipped. They had plenty of time to place orders and get that equipment ready to disperse.

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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:51 PM
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6. From what I have heard
most of these contracts were given (non bid) to Kellogg Brown & Root. In fact from what I have read this occurred prior to our even declaring war on Iraq. I believe that this is the same group that has been found to be over charging for services and are being investigated for unsanitary kitchens that are responsible for feeding our troops. One of the first things Kerry will have to do is straighten out this mess also. Sounds like war profiteering to me.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 05:54 PM
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7. remember cheney STILL has halliburton options
they try to focus on the deferred compensation, which he earned before becoming veep but gets paid in later years as a tax dodge. this is a standard thing, and there's not much wrong with it because the only direct financial interest cheney has is that halliburton not go bankrupt prior to paying him back salary.

but the whole point of focusing on that is to divert attention from the fact that cheney STILL owns unexercised stock options in halliburton. folks, the stock options are the way ceos make their multiple millions. if the company doesn't do well, the options are worthless. but if the company does well, the options are a GIGANTIC bonanza. you could put a price tag on every contract awarded, and calculate the increase in value to cheney's options.

DIRECT conflict of interest/bribery
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:18 PM
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8. that A-hole, Cheney approved deals with Iraq despite UN sanctions
he and his company flouted US and UN agreements to embargo but no one wants to talk about that?

BTW. I'm tired of seeing Halliburton, Saudi Arabia, and Kerr McGee ads all over the place. Kind of like how my feelers went up in 99 when Enron was placing money all over the networks. I remember telling my wife there was a rotten Bush connection.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 06:45 PM
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9. That's a novel angle:

"The bodies of three of Halliburton's drivers were found not far from where their fuel convoy was attacked in Iraq" so stop attacking Halliburton.

Let's see if I understood this: A multinational company, engaged in accounting scandals associated with a billion dollar no-bid contract, becomes completely immune from criticism because some of its hourly workers died on the job.

By George! What a clever argument! Why, that probably means we shouldn't criticize companies stateside either, if any of their workers die on the job ...

*sigh*

I'm still waiting for Halliburton's CEOs and shareholders to line up for hazardous duty.
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:14 PM
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11. corporate veil
Edited on Sun May-16-04 08:15 PM by Alpharetta
becomes completely immune from criticism because some of its hourly workers died on the job.

The blood red white and blue version of the corporate veil.
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 07:02 AM
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12. My Halliburton poster



Halliburton now has the political clout to build a 3 billion dollar toll road for trucks in TN/WV. Truckes won't use it at 75 cents per mile and the people people don't want to pay for the bond to build it...
but that doesn't matter - They are Hallibuton.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 08:46 AM
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13. Donald Lambro is the chief political correspondent
for the Washington Times. Need you say more?
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