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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:06 AM
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Gold Sachs Probe Turns to *Buffett Deal* -- Whoa! We called it here on DU in 2008
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 12:13 AM by chill_wind


Probe Turns to Buffett Deal
Government Suspects Goldman Director Told Galleon of Berkshire's 2008 Investment


By SUSAN PULLIAM

Business * APRIL 23, 2010


A Goldman Sachs Group Inc. director tipped off a hedge-fund billionaire about a $5 billion investment in Goldman by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. before a public announcement of the deal at the height of the 2008 financial crisis, a person close to the situation says.

The revelation marks a significant turn in the government's case against Raj Rajaratnam, the hedge-fund titan at the center of the largest insider-trading case in a generation. Mr. Buffett's investment in Goldman in September 2008 was a watershed moment in the financial crisis. One of the world's savviest investors, Mr. Buffett helped allay fears about the instability of the financial system by backing America's leading investment bank.

The new disclosure stems from a government examination into whether the Goldman director, Rajat Gupta, gave inside information to Mr. Rajaratnam. In a court filing March 22, the government alleged that Mr. Rajaratnam or "co-conspirators" traded on non-public information about Goldman. In a filing last week, the government provided more details about the information it alleges Mr. Rajaratnam received, including advance notice about the Buffett transaction with Goldman.



the rest: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703876404575200423282391104.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLETopStories


Ahhh hhhaaa haaa.....



chill_wind

Wed Sep-24-08 08:28 PM

Goldman's shares get suspicious boost pre-Buffett

By Kristina Cooke


NEW YORK, Sep. 24, 2008 (Reuters) — An unusual surge in Goldman Sachs' share price in the last 10 minutes of trading on Tuesday raised eyebrows on Wall Street, as it came two hours before news of Warren Buffett's big investment in the bank.


Goldman Sachs shares rose more than $5 heading into the close of trading even as the rest of the market tumbled, leaving traders suspicious that inside information was used to make a profit.

"Obviously someone knew the Buffett news that was coming out. I noticed it yesterday and I was telling my colleagues something is going on with Goldman," said Dave Rovelli, managing director of US Equity Trading at Canaccord Adams in New York.

Securities and Exchange Commission> spokesman John Nester declined to comment on whether the incident is being investigated. Goldman Sachs could not immediately be reached for comment.



DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4081531&mesg_id=4081531


Whole thread sank like a rock that day, but I knew it dammit. And if little old me could know it was something that stunk, you can bet the big financial media elite knew it that same day, too. It was, after all, at the very height of the meltdown and the Buffett move was a big, big story. I figured WSJ , WAPO or NYT would be all over it the next day.

I remember googling for more sources or stories for the next 24 hrs, something else to add or to reinforce the thread with more facts and there was like....NOTHING more on it. Zip. Like it didn't happen.

Our free and "independent" press. Bah! :-(










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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:14 AM
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1. Good work.
Thanks.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:21 AM
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3. The Gold Sachs hits just keep on coming!
I hope I'm not getting too far ahead of myself, but this is another one that seems to have legs (tentacles)?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:16 AM
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2. Yeah, I remember you picked up on that at the time
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 12:16 AM by Warpy
and I filed it under that "maybe when Stupid is out of office and we get that asshole Chris Cox's influence out of the SEC, this will get revisited."

It looks like it has been now that both those things have been done.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:28 AM
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4. What killed me was
Big Media's resolute ignoring of it and absolute refusal to raise questions or to cover the fact of it. Reuters was the only report- the NYD picked it up. And some cryptic little note made by a CNBC guy on his blog. That was IT!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:35 AM
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5. It wasn't news while the foxes were still guarding the henhouse
but it seems you weren't the only one who picked up on that little snippet of information and filed it away.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 10:31 PM
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13. Foxes and henhouse update: SEC IG (burrowed Bush appointee?) to probe
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 10:32 PM by chill_wind
potential coordination with WH on Goldman suit.

Fox, as in literally he went on Fox News.


TPM

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/sec_to_probe_potential_co-ordination_with_white_ho.php#more
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:44 AM
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6. Buffett seems to be a half-step removed from all sorts of suspicious stuff.
Maybe someday they will catch him directly involved.

However, I gotta say that "suspicious bumps" in stock prices happen all the time right before big news is released. It's disgusting, and hypocritical (as the same people tell you about how important it is that the market be "efficient"), but it's so common that it's just accepted practice on Wall Street.
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:02 AM
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7. The GS exec passed on Buffet's investment strategy
to a friend who then capitalized on it. He was not the alleged insider trader, but a victim of it in this case. Buffet is a good guy. He votes Democratic, lives in a small house in a suburb and is against his secretary being taxed at a higher rate than he is.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 11:16 AM
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9. I'm aware of Buffett's PR/reputation, but as I said, he's been a half-step removed from
a lot of stuff that rose to the level of government investigation. And yes, nothing has stuck to him that I know of.
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:37 PM
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12. Oh, and I forgot to mention that he gave away over 90 percent
of his money to charity (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation). It is really very unlikely that he is out there committing crimes for charity.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:44 AM
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8. Yep. It's all been there for anyone to see
for a long time. :thumbsup: chill
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 11:47 AM
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10. Sirota in 2006:
David Sirota
Posted: July 4, 2006 07:14 PM

The Paulson Payoff at the Bush Treasury Department



Reuters reports today that "The incoming Treasury secretary, Henry M. Paulson Jr., was awarded an $18.7 million cash bonus for half a year of work as the chief executive of the Goldman Sachs Group." The massive bonus was, not surprisingly, approved by Goldman Sachs at the very same time Paulson was both CEO and Treasury Secretary designate. This raises a very simple question: What is Goldman Sachs buying with this brazen payoff to someone they knew was headed to one of the most powerful government posts in America?

(snip)


So again, a simple question: With Goldman Sachs handing incoming Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson an $18.7 million bonus for six months of service, what is the company looking for in return? After all, Goldman Sachs has had a lot of business before the government that Paulson's Treasury Department has been involved in and can influence. Here are just a few factoids about the Goldman Sachs-Government connections that raise questions about the Paulson payoff:

- The nonpartisan Project on Government Oversight (POGO) noted in a major 2002 study that Goldman Sachs is one of the largest beneficiaries of government contracts in America.

It is also one of the contractors that POGO noted "have been found to have repeatedly broken the law or engaged in misconduct," yet still receives government contracts.

- MSN Money notes that Goldman Sachs main profit-makers is its offering of "investment banking services to corporate and government clients."

- The Associated Press reported in 2004 that "Goldman Sachs is being sued by investors who say the firm cost them money by trading on advance knowledge of the Treasury Department's announcement in October 2001 that the government was ending sales of new 30-year bonds." Goldman Sachs "previously settled government charges that one of its economists used an illegal tip to make millions for the firm in advance of the announcement."




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-paulson-payoff-at-the_b_24379.html


(None of which fazed Repubs or Dems at the time. He was approved overwhelmingly-- .unanimously, in fact.)

He was one of Bush's great gifts to us all. But now that GS is finally on the ropes with a bloody nose and starting to take some body blows from the press and the SEC, it would be so wonderful if Congressional Wall Street Dems would just stay out of the way.

That's all they have to do-- just once stay out of the way. Will they?

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 12:27 PM
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11. K&R
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:41 AM
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14. Kicked, but too late to recommend.
Thanks for the thread and your diligence, chill_wind.:thumbsup:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 09:57 AM
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15. Thanks for the kind thoughts Uncle Joe-
:hug:

The stuff that is finally happening now with GS has me on the edge of my seat.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 03:35 PM
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16. Thank for your following and making sense out of this for us. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:05 PM
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17. Good for you for noticing that important information.
As you said, if 'little ole' you could find it interesting, where were all those brilliant Wall St. minds?

Interesting that the SEC spokesman had nothing to say about whether or not it was being investigated.

I guess they were all watching porn or something ~ but they sure weren't watching the criminals too closely.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:59 PM
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18. kick
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