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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:26 AM
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Halliburton & BP - Is it time for the Corporate Death Penalty?
President Barack Obama pretty much stated the obvious when he called the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico “a massive and potentially unprecedented environmental disaster.” The oil well pouring a river of crude into the Gulf of Mexico didn't have the normal type of remote-control shut-off switch used in Norway and the UK as last-resort protection against underwater spills, largely because the oil companies themselves are responsible for "voluntary" compliance with safety and environmental standards.

It was in 1994, two years into the Clinton administration, when this practice of putting the fox in charge of the hen house was legalized, about the same time George W. Bush was doing the same thing in Texas, a program pushed hard in the previous administration by Dan Quayle's so-called "competitiveness council" charged with deregulating industry. The accident has led to one of the largest ever oil spills in U.S. water and the loss of 11 lives. Voluntary safety for oil wells, but you and I can get stopped by the police if we don't fasten our safety belts? Eleven people have died because Halliburton and BP wanted to save money.

In the first hundred years of this republic it was commonplace for rogue corporations to get the corporate death penalty - being shut down, dissolved, and having their assets sold off. Through the 19th century, it averaged around 2000 companies a year that got the axe. If the Supreme Court now says that corporations are people - and they did - then these corporations should be eligible for the corporate death penalty. Time to break up and sell off the pieces of Halliburton and British Petroleum.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:28 AM
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1. The Corporations are considered people, so why not?
Shut them down. We have no other recourse to stop them.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:50 AM
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5. They are only persons when
it is convenient.

Corporations enjoy the status of "Super-Citizens" -- no personal responsibility but the tax payer owes them ever consideration in the event of a glitch of any kind.

Downturn in the economy? No problem, the people will bail you out. Your irresponsible actions cause death and destruction? No problem, the people will suffer and pay.

Anything for the almighty corporation. This is fascism.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:28 AM
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2. Monsanto.....
This company has killed more human beings than most wars have.


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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:30 AM
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3. Unfortunately, that won't be a deterrent to the executives
They've already pocketed their millions (or sometimes billions). Why would they care if a bunch of shareholders lost their retirement funds?

The only thing these executives fear is being fitted for an orange jumpsuit. Start throwing them in jail and you'll see a lot of corporate criminality evaporate.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:55 AM
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7. Throw them in jail and seize their assets, like they do drug dealers. They are no better.
From AIG to Xe, let them be a lesson to the others.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 01:49 PM
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9. I think we need a personal economic "death penalty"
You forfeit all assets and you are not allowed to accumulate more than $100 net worth for the rest of your life.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 04:33 PM
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11. I like it, especially since if they are in jail it will be easy to enforce. :) nt
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:32 AM
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4. +1
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:56 AM
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6. There is no end in sight to the damage being done.
Human mortality is indeed a tragic price to pay, yet I find it's all the other species I am most aghast for. You might be just the scholarly gent to answer a question I posed last night in another thread on the same topic. Is there an international court with the authority to have these criminally negligent corporate cronies be held accountable. I absolutely concur and BTW, this developing DUer is pleased to have your sensible, informed and entertaining voice among us.

k and r
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 12:14 PM
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8. It's Way Past Time, Actually
and the sooner, the better.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 02:17 PM
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10. If it's a foreign corporation, like BP, it would first have to be extradited
Moreover, from a country which also considers a corporation to be a person.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 07:00 PM
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12. It has always been time for the corporate death penalty.
Nationalize them at the drop of a hat.
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:04 PM
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13. I say nationalize 'em. Chavez style. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:25 PM
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14. 1000 times yes.
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