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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:54 PM
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This isn't going to be popular...
...and I should, perforce, add a disclaimer:

Everything I say in this post does not apply to anyone who ever voted "yes" on a mill rate increase or bond issue, or to anyone who believes that the solution to America's future lies in paying more taxes, for the right investments in America's people, not in giving bigger tax breaks to corporations and billionaires.

Got that? Okay, on with the rant...


I have had it up to the back teeth and beyond with parades.

I have reached the point where I want to retch when I hear bands playing service theme music, or loudspeakers braying out patriotic platitudes.

"Taps" fails to stir any pride; fluttery little flaggie things cause no lift of the heart.

The phrase "thank you for your service," particularly when uttered by those who clearly believe that they are paying too many taxes, brown people and poor people are slime-sucking parasites, and America's salvation lies in the Freefucking Market, makes me want to pound someone.

I wouldn't do it, of course, because I am (seriously! honest, I am!) a pacifist.


My Dad was a Marine.

I respect those of my fellow citizens who undertake the difficult and unrewarding (in the material sense) task of carrying out the grimy, violent, unspeakable end of America's foreign policy.

Just because someone enlists in the armed forces does not make them an unthinking accomplice to the slaughterhouse of failed diplomacy. Many intelligent, courageous, honorable and even idealistic individuals give up years of their lives and hand over their freedom in order to form the final barrier of flesh between their loved ones and the devastation of war.

I happen to disagree with many if not most of the decisions that result in those men and women being sent to do jobs that result in death and misery and destruction for others and, not infrequently, for themselves and their comrades. I happen to believe that the management of this nation's military resources has gone from poor to catastrophic in the last twenty years. I happen to deplore and oppose the extent to which our economy has become dependent upon the profiteering of the military-industrial complex.

But I still respect those who make sacrifices of their time, their talents, their freedom, their health and limbs and sanity and even their very lives for the ideals this nation was founded to uphold. (Whether it continues to uphold them is relevant, but not to the sacrifices these men and women have made, are making, every day, for me and my fellow-citizens.)

However.

It fills me with a soaring, incendiary maelstrom of rage that we can put on pretty parades and mouth speeches and hold sales to sell cheap plastic crap in the name of "honoring their service" or "remembering their sacrifice"...

...when we can't make the simple and comparatively painless sacrifice of paying enough taxes to provide decent medical care, family benefits, or keep our promises for educational benefits and other support to these same "heroes."



FUCK me. I see the Plaza on any given day, full of the vacant-eyed, abandoned wreckage of our military policy. I see the men and women making do with outdated prosthetic technology, with no resources for treating their PTSD, I see the families grieving the loss of suicided veterans, I see the shitty conditions disabled veterans are living in...

Because we, you and me, my fellow citizens, are willing to go along with the corporate fascists who want the endless profit stream of war, without having to pay the true and full costs of war. We're so damn' quick to holler "USA, USA, USA!" and applaud the uniforms, and chatter about how cool our military is and how we're gonna kick ASS "over there" wherever "there" may be, but when it comes time to ante up to pay the bills? Where are we then?

I'll tell you where we are, we're at some fracking bagger rally whinging about our crushing tax burden and how the "welfare" state is destroying our nation's giant intangible penis of power.

That's where we are.

And then, once a year, having left our veterans to their own devices, to inadequate care and broken promises, we toddle on down to the Mall or to some carefully-mown cemetary full of acres and acres of uniformly-spaced white markers to solemnly "honor" our servicemen and -women.

AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE.

That is all.

:rant:

disgustedly,
Bright
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:58 PM
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1. You are absolutely correct, and I salute you.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:05 AM
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2. I can't stand those "Support the troops" stickers either.
Because they're usually owned by some asshole who lusts for war, won't serve himself, and complains about taxes going towards veterans benefits.

Phony patriots, right up there with idiots who think flying a big ass flag on their porch makes them a great person, too.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 03:52 PM
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38. I have a support the troops sticker . . .
but it also says "bring them home now."
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:14 AM
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3. Good rant. I don't see why it would not be popular here at least.
Sounds pretty accurate to me. I see homeless veterans every time I go to Ventura and I feel the same way you do. All the flags and yellow ribbons and rah-rahs for the 'heroes', what do they mean? Just empty gestures as far as I can see. The yellow ribbons are gone, no one cares much about those men and women who came back and had to live with the horrors they witnessed, some unable to function and with, as you say, so little available to help them cope. The war FUNDS 'for the troops'?? Not so, for the War Profiteers.

What I would like Veteran's Day to be would be a day where Congress holds a special session to check on the status of those they sent to war and instead of voting on more funds for more war, for which there appears to be an endless supply of money, each year I would like to see them pass a funding bill for housing and health care and whatever else those veterans need.

My girlfriend's husband, a Marine, died a few years from cancer directly related to his combat experiences. On Veteran's day two years ago she received an eviction notice, her house was in foreclosure and she could not get them to renegotiate her mortgage after she lost her husband's income.

So, I don't see anything to disagree with in your OP.

Rec'd and :kick:
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:24 AM
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22. What a brilliant idea
"What I would like Veteran's Day to be would be a day where Congress holds a special session to check on the status of those they sent to war and instead of voting on more funds for more war, for which there appears to be an endless supply of money, each year I would like to see them pass a funding bill for housing and health care and whatever else those veterans need. "

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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:20 AM
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4. It's the same problem we've had with the right for years
over simplification of an idea, just enough so you can polarize people.

After all... Who would be in favor of leaving children behind?

After all... Who wants to kill babies?

After all... Who wants LESS money in their pocket?

But the issue is complicated and nuanced.

These poor ignorant souls who bark the rhetoric of overtaxation are blinded to the fact that taxes are necessary to live in a unified society.

Yes there is wastefulness and abuse that has to be addressed. But burning down the house because there's a spot on the carpet is not the answer.



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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:03 AM
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9. Yea I had a heated discussion with a rabid righty over what hate speech is
they are rather clueless when it comes to anything, like waving flags at a memorial parade yet demanding vets benefits and medical care get cut because it is a waste of tax payers dollars. Trying to explain hate speech is demeaning a minority or inciting violence to a group or person of a minority does not mean anyone calling a persons ideals stupid make it a hate crime. It is just 99% of their thinking is fear based and you can't get them beyond that fear, especially the fear of the unknown.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:32 AM
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5. Hmmm,
I think of what a veteran is differently then many people.

:shrug:

And I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:37 AM
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6. What you said!
:yourock:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:13 AM
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7. Well said
K&R and thank you for saying it so well.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:03 AM
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8. That was the best rant I've read in ages
and I agree with every word you wrote except (and I'm now embarrassed to admit this) I do get a bit of a thrill when I hear a military band. It is not so much a pride kind of feeling as it is, and has always been, a kind of awe at the discipline and talent it takes to perform with such precision.

Really great rant! K&R
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:36 AM
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10. You'll get no argument from me
That was one righteous rant!

:yourock:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:12 AM
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11. i'm with you. nt
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:21 AM
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12. I don't like parades either
but they don't fill me with rage, they bore me. In my small town there is a volunteer committee and a couple of businesses usually sponsor them, so they don't cost the residents any money in taxes. The kids look forward to it (haven't figured out why)... it's just a "thing" to do.

Do you like fireworks?


:shrug:

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:28 PM
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31. See: "Born on the Fourth of July" -- Tom Cruise --
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096969/

and a few other notable anti-war movies --



The original anti-war movie -- "ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT" --

played on AMC yesterday, I think --

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020629/


and just as a reminder -- 80% of Americans want an end to these wars!!

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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:04 AM
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13. I've just thought of a bumper sticker

Support our Troops

Get the rich to pay more taxes

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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:58 AM
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15. What I think would make a good bumper sticker might be to truthful

Support the Rich and Greedy

Send your Kids to War

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:17 AM
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14. Excellent post...n/t
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:03 AM
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16. Nicely said bright.
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:09 AM
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17. Thank you for saying that , could not have said it better myself.
All of us contain Music & Truth, but most of us can't get it out.

Mark Twain
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SnowCritter Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:13 AM
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18. Right on, Tygr!
Like your father, I was a Marine (actually there are no "ex-Marines", only Marines No Longer On Active Duty or "MNLOAD"s).

I've been thanked for my service ('74 - '78) and I always respond something like"

"There's no need to thank me, but if you feel you must, do so by making sure that all veterans get the medical and psychiatric care that they need."

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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:02 AM
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19. It's all pretense. I agree with what you said...
I wouldn't say the pledge of allegiance or salute the flag anymore. It's not my flag. When we stop torturing and killing people around the world and can manage to head up our Dept of Injustice with someone other than that feckless fool, Eric Holder, then maybe I'll reconsider. Until then they can all eff themselves.

That's my contribution, this Memorial(sic) Day. :(

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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:12 AM
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20. You're 100% right sir...thank you! (n/t)
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:14 AM
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21. Well Put....Kicked. (n/t)
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:36 AM
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23. Well said.
A heartfelt k&r.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:38 AM
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24. RANT RIGHT ON
"SUPPORT THE TROOPS" is, with few exceptions, an empty platitude for people who think patriotism consists of sending our young people in uniform to be maimed or killed for a pack of lies issued by the servants of the military industrial complex.

If we really wanted to say THANK YOU for your SERVICE we wouldn't call on them to make sacrifices for anyting less than legitimate need, and afterwards we would ensure the best possible care for their wounds both physical and mental.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:47 AM
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25. No, turns out this is very popular, Bright
You have brilliantly stated righteous truths.

K&R
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:41 AM
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26. K and R...I agree
completely.

I hate to see these teenaged women and men having to join the military so to be able to get a damn job.

War is a racket....and the War Boyz are selling death and destruction to both sides.

Hell, the wars of today are, IMHO, Resource Wars. Planet Earth has only so many Resources.

Sustainable and renewable is the way to go, but da boyz can't make $$$$ on that.

Memorial Day is just plain depressing. Thank you for your rant.
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:54 PM
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27. I believe you are wrong.
96 recs. so far, and this thread has five stars!

Where are the parades for the pacifists? All those people that saved thousands of lives by preventing or ending needless wars.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 12:58 PM
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28. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way
Thanks for the post. Now I can take a guilt free nap.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:03 PM
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29. + 50 million X infinity X 50 gazillion
Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings.

(BTW, Cheney's pic is the dictionary illustration I'd choose for 'scoundrel' these days.)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:24 PM
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30. Mother's Day AND Father's Day should both be ANTI-WAR days ... and men should
join with women to make that happen --

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Viking 1 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 01:42 PM
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32. Why WOULDN'T this be popular?
Good points, all.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:22 PM
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33. Standing with you, TygrB.
I especially like this from Sabrina 1 in Post #3 upthread.


What I would like Veteran's Day to be would be a day where Congress holds a special session to check on the status of those they sent to war and instead of voting on more funds for more war, for which there appears to be an endless supply of money, each year I would like to see them pass a funding bill for housing and health care and whatever else those veterans need.---Sabrina 1, post#3

THAT would be an excellent way to Support the Troops!



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Harriety Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:22 PM
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34. I totally agree. Well said!
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dorksied Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:42 PM
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35. Brilliant post. Absolutely spot on.
thanks for your rant, it mirrors my own feelings exactly!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:45 PM
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36. Is one thousand percent possible???
Cause that's how much I agree with you.
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quarbis Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 03:27 PM
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37. TAPS
I still cry when I hear TAPS. Can't help it.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 03:58 PM
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39. More than parades, I can't stand "veterans" who glorify war . . ..
It makes me doubt that they have ever really been in one.

"The nicest veterans in Schenectady, I thought, the kindest and funniest ones, the ones who hated war the most, were the ones who'd really fought."
- Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 04:24 PM
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40. I'm with you. k&r
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:08 PM
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41. I'm with you.
I've had it with patriotic platitudes.
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:21 PM
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42. SGT Pasto agrees with you!
if everyone who can take time to go to parades would go paint one wall in a VA hospital, every goddamn room in this country would have fresh paint!

I know that for most people I am off putting but I LOATHE this lip service. Very few Americans actually _support_ my troops.

I would like to ask nicely, what did you do to make a tangible difference this year for troops or vets? Very likely nothing. I guess thats ok...but it aint support.

My Army has shouldered an almost unbearable burden this last decade with crushing operational tempo. That should keep you up at night.

If you all could only know what magnificent people most of them were.

Rest in Peace. Brothers, Sisters, Black, white, gay, straight. I could give a fuck. A good soldier is not bound by those labels.

SGT P
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:39 PM
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45. Good suggestion, thank you Sergeant. Let me add some more:
And these you can do without even leaving the comfort of your homes:

Send $10 to Fisher House Foundation: http://www.fisherhouse.org/

Read a good book aloud and record it on a CD. Label it, and send it to your nearest VA hospital: http://www2.va.gov/directory/guide/division_flsh.asp?dnum=1

TAKE AN INTEREST: Visit the AFNS, learn about where they are and what they're doing: http://www.usafns.com/email.shtml

And finally and MOST IMPORTANT:

Write an actual letter, ON PAPER, that meets the following criteria:

  • No more than one page
  • Hand written or at least hand signed
  • Include your name and address
  • Note that you support the full funding of quality health care for active duty, reserve, and veteran service members
  • Request that your Congressional Representative support such funding, as well as full funding for veterans' benefits


Mail it with an actual stamp to your Congressional Representative: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

encouragingly,
Bright
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 08:50 PM
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47. Hell yes, The Fischer House is UBER IMPORTANT
thanks for that follow up.
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joanbarnes Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 05:47 PM
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43. My sentiments exactly, I never knew how to express......
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 06:24 PM
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44. You've got every right to be this Bright,
and differentiate yourself from the less gifted, less perceptive masses.

It's painful to stand out, I know, but some bright people have to do it or there is no evolution.

Thank you for speaking your mind.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 07:43 PM
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46. I couldn't agree with you more.
I have been thoroughly disgusted with this faux patriotism for quite some time myself.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 09:23 PM
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48. Two things in our country really, really bother me.
A)The rampant anti-intellectualism, and
B)The military fetish.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:38 PM
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49. Excellent post!! Vet here who feels the same way. REC. nt
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:16 PM
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50. "our nation's giant intangible penis of power." Well-fucking said, Bright.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:17 AM
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51. Sadly, it is usually the children who become warriors.
Most of them want to earn a "free education." Little do they know that the price they will have to pay is eternal.

"Your Flag Decal Can't You Into Heaven Anymore, by, JOHN PRINE, sums it up pretty damned well.
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 03:28 PM
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52. No apologies, no disclaimers.
Because you're right.
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