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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:09 PM
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Buzzflash - Why Obama can't invoke 14th Amendment
http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/12888

Be sure to read comments. Looks like DU are not the only Dems unhappy with the president's timidity.
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:16 PM
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1. "Looks like DU are not the only Dems unhappy with the president's timidity."
Edited on Wed Jul-27-11 04:17 PM by Cool Logic
Looks like DU are not the only Dems unhappy with the president's respect for the Constitution.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:17 PM
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2. You don't speak for this DU'er Doctor nt
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:20 PM
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3. not a credible argument, imo
The article makes it sound like the judicial branch no longer exists. It basically states that Obama cannot possibly prevail in federal courts because they are owned by the republicans. That's demonstrably false, Obama has already won cases in the federal courts.

And the whole attitude is completely wrong. I've heard it before, especially talking about opposition in Congress. "Obama can't do such-and-such, because the GOP won't let him." Where did this new rule come from, that Obama cannot possibly win any fight? Well there might be an answer, it might be coming from Bill Daley, or Rahm Emanuel before him.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:20 PM
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4. Makes a Good Pretext to Impeach the Dancing Supremes
Bring it on! Clean House, Senate and the Court!
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 04:35 PM
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5. I don't think Obama can "invoke" the 14th Amendment...
Any time a governing body does something considered unconstitutional, parties with standing can take that body to court and sue for relief. If Congress sits in its own crap, and lets the U.S. default, THEN the president or anyone else with standing can take Congress' action to court.

To make an executive decision, somehow "invoking" the 14th or acting under its color, comes closer to decision-making a la the Unitary Presidency.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:06 PM
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6. Where would the SCOTUD land on this.
There is a good chance that their masters on Wall Street would want them to say that it's OK.

Wall Street does not want a default. And they don't care how they get what they want, or avoid what they don't want.
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