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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 07:58 AM
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Falwell: The Commandments Are Removed. What Now
http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/contentDisplay.asp?aid=4053

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As you know, a federal judge ruled that the monument violates the hypothetical separation of church and state--the ominous phrase lifted from an obscure letter written by Thomas Jefferson that has been manipulated, exaggerated, and embellished by those who wish to exterminate religious expression from the American public square. The U.S. Supreme Court then declined--quite timidly, I believe--to hear Chief Justice Moore's appeal of that ruling.
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I believe Chief Justice Moore--a hero in the state--will probably become the next governor or senator from Alabama. What's more, you can virtually guarantee that the state will elect another conservative justice to head the Alabama Supreme Court.
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Gary Bauer, chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, agreed, saying, ''While there is deep division over Moore's strategy, it is increasingly clear that the public's patience is wearing thin with our rogue courts. For decades now, unelected judges have gone unchallenged while they ripped out every vestige of faith from the public square and tore down every symbol of our most deeply held beliefs.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:01 AM
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1. maybe a statue of Mars, god of war?
Edited on Thu Aug-28-03 08:02 AM by JNelson6563
So all those bible-thumpers can wear their right-to-life rose lapel pins and worship the true god of the Simian and his PNAC puppet-masters.

Fitting, no?

Julie
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Best_man23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:02 AM
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2. "an obscure letter written by Thomas Jefferson"
Hmm...I think that letter's title was "U.S. Constitution."
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tapper Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:29 AM
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8. It was a letter, but *not* obscure
The phrase was in a letter Jefferson wrote to the Baptists, who had written him. He actually borrowed the metaphor of the 'wall' from Roger Williams, who founded the first Baptist church in America. From what I've read, this was no casual letter -- Jefferson discussed his response with his attorney general.

Here's a link: http://www.au.org/resources/foundingdocs/Thomas_Jeffersons_Letter_To_The_Danburry_Baptists.htm" (The link has both letters.)
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:04 AM
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3. Now they will have to concentrate on the pagan panther in Texas
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:07 AM
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4. What now!
I'll tell you "What's Now" Mr. Jerry Falwell. A big crane is coming to lift your ten ton ass to the same place that
worthless block of granite was hauled away too, I believe the city dump.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:17 AM
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5. So, I wonder what would they say if
someone wanted to erect a statue of Buddha?
What if school prayers were dictated to be facing Mecca?
What if the principal of a school or a judge wanted to every day's gathering with the sacrifice of a chicken?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:24 AM
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6. We already saw their reaction
When * was pusing his faith based charity program funding Falwel and Robertson were slavering away until the Scientologists and Satanists started asking for funding. They backed away faster than Bush reacting to a homeless person. After some quick maneuvering and including statements about mainstream religions thet got back on board.

They only favor inclusion of religion in government as long as it is their religion.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:27 AM
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7. Well, Jerry, the first order of business has to be
the disbarment (or whatever the relevant term for is for removal of judge -- impeachment?) of Mr. Moore. I think the Alabama judicial ethics folks are working on it.

BTW: Nice play to your sheeple with the "hypothetical" separation of church and state. You manage to become more digusting every time you open your mouth.
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:53 AM
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13. it tis almost rabid

the fervor over this monument. I am so grateful I am not religious. I thank god regularly for that bit of sense. Tell you the truth I didn't mind the monument was up and made a number of sardonic remarks upon the first article I encounter regarding the issue. Mostly I was commenting on the strange irony of the courts decision in the face of our born again christian leader and his crusade invoking his god against the evildoers and all the anti-islamic propaganda one senses in the war propaganda. However this is EXACTLY why we have the law separating church from state to discourage this kind of rabid public display. Before you know it their will be a militia faction within this group of devotes who will be pointing the finger at other religions as the culprit for the monument being removed.

Perhaps they should have carted to Moore's wherein it could be placed on display in his backyard and he could open up his home as a shrine.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:31 AM
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9. HOW ABOUT WE REMOVE THAT PIOUS F*** FALWELL
yes that would be nice
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:34 AM
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10. You took the words right out of my mouth
:-)
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:37 AM
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11. now the 'under god' from the pledge of allegiance
and promote the more appropriate 'e pluribus enum '
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:56 AM
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14. crusades in the name of God

will hardly end even if under God were removed from the pledge. that is way too ingrained in the military propaganda for rallying the boys (among other things). Since the beginning of time wars have been conducted in this manner:

"with God on their side" - Dylan told me!
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QuietStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 08:47 AM
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12. They are going to continue demonstrating till the middle of next week

At least that was what was reported on CNN last night. wow. I wonder how many christians will make a showing. What a spectacle if in fact the demonstrations do continue.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 10:22 AM
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15. It's my understanding that Moore had the monument installed
With permission from no one. Being that this is public property I'm surprised they let it go this long.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 12:49 PM
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16. Here's the operative statement-
"I believe Chief Justice Moore--a hero in the state--will probably become the next governor or senator from Alabama."

Clearly, these people are using the reilious piety card to further their political agenda.

On the Newshour lastnight Rev. Dwyer kicked his opponents ass on the issue...but what I thought quite interesting was the guy made it a point to say that Dwyer must be a Democrat. As usual, the Republicans are trying to use these events to score political points with their base....and isn't that the lowest form of hypocrisy? Using "God" to further your secular economic/political objectives?
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 02:17 PM
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17. If Falwell and his ilk had their way...
...we would eventually have a Christian version of the Taliban in America.
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