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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:51 PM
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I Am A Conservative Christian, And The Religious Right Scares Me, Too
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/chuckwagon.html

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No one can honestly question my commitment to pro-life, pro- family, conservative causes. That being said, the Religious Right, as it now exists, scares me.

For one reason, on the whole, the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party in general and for President G.W. Bush in particular. This is in spite of the fact that both Bush and the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., have routinely ignored and even trampled the very principles which the Religious Right claims to represent.

Therefore, no longer does the Religious Right represent conservative, Christian values. Instead, they represent their own self-serving interests at the expense of those values.

It also appears painfully obvious to me that in order to sit at the king's table, the Religious Right is willing to compromise any principle, no matter how sacred. As such, it has become a hollow movement. Sadly, the Religious Right is now a movement without a cause, except the cause of advancing the Republican Party.

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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:54 PM
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1. Who'd you vote for ...like it matters..
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:55 PM
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2. I don't think I understand what you just said.
Could you elaborate?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:57 PM
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3. Wow!
How much more of stuff like that will we see, in the coming days?

A lot, I would expect. A whole lot.

I have heard of this guy before. He ain't one of us.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:58 PM
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4. I don't understand the modifier "conservative" used with "Christian."
Was Jesus a liberal or conservative?
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:57 PM
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13. To me...
Jesus was a liberal philosopher hijacked by a conservative religion.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:58 PM
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5. The religious right is neither
religious nor right, just like the Moral Majority was neither moral nor the majority. And I say that as a devout Christian. I'm thoroughly disgusted with how the RR has hijacked Christianity and twisted and distorted it so that it's virtually unrecognizable.

And it's truly disgusting how they couldn't care less about people in need, all they care about is harassing gays and minorities, forcing their brand of religion on the courts and public agencies and properties, and cramming their version of religion down everyone else's throat.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 11:59 PM
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6. Finally, I article from the right I can afford to read

Yes, it all is very scary, I am a Christian but very afraid of * and his friends plan for our religious beliefs and Religion period. Yes, Christianity in the end will be blamed for these evils individuals deeds, it is all really a sorry state of affairs.
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KenCarson Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:17 AM
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7. you sound like my mom, she's from the same POV
and i never thought they really represented most christians
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 12:34 AM
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8. Interesting - and really remarkable, considering the writer of this articl
is NOT in lockstep with his fellow fundamentalist/evangelical/born-again Christians. For someone with his background to be thinking for himself and saying things like this - it takes some cajones.

BTW, at least two people on this thread sound like they think that you, RamboLiberal, wrote this man's words and that YOU are the religious conservative - or am I misunderstanding their comments?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:24 PM
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10. I did not write this - it's by Chuck Baldwin who I understand
is a Conservative Christian and a radio broadcaster. I'm not familar with him - just found the column referenced on another liberal website and found it interesting.

I like to see more like him break from the lockstep.
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 02:05 AM
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9. Wasn't he on Peroutka's ticket
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:08 PM
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11. The heart of conservative values is a highly regressive tax system:
may we assume that, by definition, a highly regressive tax system is primary to your values too? Never forget job # 1 was a huge tax cut mostly benefiting the most well-to-do and funded largely by an ultimate multi-trillion dollar raid on the albeit mythical social security trust fund, but giving rise to the clamor for privatization, i.e, greatly reduced future benefits. Some values.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 05:44 PM
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12. In case you were responding directly to the conservative in the thread
title, see #10 above...
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:47 AM
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14. Religious Right has infiltrated the Repub party, like a parasite
it lives well off it's host. True conservatives and true Republicans will have to take their party back, if they dare and I really hope that they do. I don't think the Rel right is advancing the Repub party, I think they are using it, sucking the life from it like any host it is serving its parasite very well.

The Religious Right is wrong. They are not, as you mentioned, behaving in truly Christian ways, or even moral ways. They put on this front, they talk the talk, they have a facade, they pretend to be what they are not.

They, and those who follow them are like the people who gave rise to Nazi Germany. It is extremely scary. I am a Christian and they terrify me.
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