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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:11 PM
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Burning Bush brandishes Dostoevsky
Friday January 21, 2005
The Guardian

One of the models of American leadership is that of Moses, leading God's chosen people - then the Jews, now the Americans - towards a promised land, following a pillar of fire. At one point, according to the Bible, Moses was shown a sign: "Behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."

But the key fire passage in the Burning Bush speech - "We have lit a fire as well; a fire in the minds of men" - actually has its origins in a novel by the 19th century Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Devils, about a group of terrorists' ineffectual struggle to bring down the tyrannical Tsarist regime.

One of the characters declares that it is pointless to try to put out a fire started by terrorists: "The fire is in the minds of men and not in the roofs of houses," he says.

The novel belongs to a period in Dostoevsky's life which the White House might find attractive, after he had been sent by the Tsar to a kind of Russian Guantánamo and emerged a deeply religious conservative.

Nonetheless, it is not clear whether Bush is identifying here with the terrorists - or the tyrants.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1395418,00.html



Somehow it seems appropriate that Bush would try to quote the Bible and end up quoting a book titled 'The Devils'. LOL
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:16 PM
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1. snicker. truly. you can also bet he never read it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:16 PM
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2. He's the anti-christ
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:19 PM
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3. "The Devils" is a wonderful book, and I'm sure Bush hasn't read it.
And Dos is not Bush's kind of "religious conservative."
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:37 PM
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4. No way Bush**
has ever even picked up a book by Dostoevsky, no way he could read a book by Dostoevsky.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:58 PM
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5. So was what they call "the Burning Bush speech" the inaugural speech?

Or an earlier speech?

I have boycotted all news on tv today and have an allergy to bad public speakers, but I could find a link and read it, I suppose. Just clue me in as to which speech this was.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:18 PM
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7. Yes, they are referring to W's inaugural speech
I couldn't bear to listen or watch, but I hear it was quite a dozy.

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Randers Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:25 PM
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8. this annotated version is good->
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Randers Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:08 PM
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6. Plus to make a "burning B**H" reference
is really odd. As if he thinks he is G*d or something (the Devil).
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:46 AM
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9. Of course, Stalin disliked Dostoevsky.
Counterrevolutionary, he was. KPSS true believers esp. disliked Besy "Demons". Anti-anarchist, anti-socialist, and anti-atheist (check out the "great inquisitor" bit in, oh, Brat'ya Karamazovy "Karamazov Brothers").
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