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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 11:41 PM
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Map of TN Governor's race 2002


Bredesen (D) was able to win a couple counties in E. TN. E TN has been Republican since the 1860s. What is unique about these counties?
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:28 AM
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1. The Knoxville area has become pretty cosmopolitan
It's a college town and lots of the graduates stay in the area. The power of rednecks and good ol' boys around here is in a decline.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:31 AM
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2. Which County is Knoxville in?
And hasn't Knoxville's Congressman ALWAYS been a Republican. Wasn't E TN Heavily Republican even during the era of the "Solid South"?
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:34 AM
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3. I am proud my county was one of the only
Dem voting counties in the southern part of the state along with President Gore's in the NE part of the state.
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Philosophy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:57 AM
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4. Knox
Yeah, our congressman is always Republican, but at least Democrats get elected to some local offices around here now.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 02:03 PM
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5. Where is Knox County on that map
Thanks.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 02:33 PM
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6. Knox County is the bright red county...
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 02:35 PM by goobergunch
in the far east of the state, one over from the state border. It's in the 2nd District (John Duncan (R)), which has not elected a Democratic congressman since the Civil War.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:45 PM
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7. I thought the his seat
had NEVER elected a Democrat at all.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 12:24 AM
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14. according to the county by county breakdown
Bredesen only won Knox by 43 votes
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 01:26 PM
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17. Ok
I wonder how he did it.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:45 PM
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25. The MONEY people in this state thought BREDESEN
would be a better governor than the pathetic Van Hilleary. Bredesen was mayor of Nashville, and really revitalized that town. He's also one of the wealthier Tennesseans, and the Bell Meade money people put the word out to elect him

Plus, the former governor, Don Sundquist, was a former Repug congressman who BROKE HIS WORD and actually PUSHED FOR a STATE INCOME TAX! HORRORS!!

The income tax was the death of a lot of good, principled politicians in this state. Our sales tax reliance sucks the life from the poor, but a bunch of right wing talk radio evildoers convinced all these people that it would rob them of their god given right to have money.

Bredesen is a great governor, and our state needed a competent manager due to the failure to institute an income tax. I think Phil is paring the state to the bone, and proving that government works. Then, if a tax is needed, the people will support it, and thus help themselves.

Phil is a guy to watch for the national scene. He is sure cleaning up some corruption in this state, especially with the roadbuilders.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:54 PM
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28. Interesting
Do you see him ever running for president?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:57 PM
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29. Sundquist even went on record as NOT endorsing Hilleary.
I like Phil, although I know a few retired people in Nashville that are blaming him and the stadium on their property tax woes.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:09 PM
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30. Explain
What about the stadium?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:51 PM
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8. I have to say, thanks Carlos
Your questions about various states and how they break down politically have helped me to know precisely where in this country I absolutely refuse to ever move to.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:54 PM
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9. You're welcome
nt
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:56 PM
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10. Why is that?
his political questions are pretty good.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:51 PM
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27. His political questions are good
The information disseminated is even better. I see counties on these maps that are so Republican, I could never move there.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 12:17 AM
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11. kick
nt
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 12:18 AM
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12. Where do you get these maps, Carlos?
n/t
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 12:20 AM
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13. www.uselectionatlas.org
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lifelong_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 12:25 AM
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15. Thanks!
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Prag_Idealist Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 04:20 PM
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18. This map is at first misleading.
The Red is Bredesen (D) and the blue is the Repub?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I read it from the original site.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 04:22 PM
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19. it's true
probably because it traces elections back to the Democratic-Republican party, and used the red color for that.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:08 PM
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20. Dems are red
ont this map
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:21 PM
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21. Historicallly, it is that way because
the eastern more mountainous area of Tennesee was not a slave holding area prior to the civil war. Maybe some slave-holding in the east, but nothing like the plantation areas in the south and western parts. Memphis, over in the west, was even a major slave trading area. During the civil war the eastern highlands was the area that actually had Union loyalties, and supplied some forces to the Union. Thus, that loyalty to the Union, Lincoln and the Republicans, has come down historically, and though not many political loyalties remain so blindly in place for so long, I think that has a lot to do with it still being a Republican stronghold today. So it's not necessarily a logical loyalty but a historical one to the region.

Tenneseans who know Tennesee history better than me---jump on in.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:27 PM
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22. Ok
I want to know as much as I can.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:40 PM
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24. Pretty fair assessment.
This area WAS union-friendly during the War of Northern Aggression, but from the number of Confederate Flags down here, you'd never know it now. This is a really Scot-type clan area. Tightly knit families and TRADITION was king. If your daddy was a Republican, YOU became one. There used to be a lot of Democrats here, too, though..

You don't hear much from those of us on the left here because the churches are so tied into the Republican Party. A lot of fundie activism.

All good folks, though. Just don't vote their own self-interests due to mass hypnosis by the Reich.

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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:30 PM
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23. I lived in E TN for quite a while.
It seems to be a *tradition*, that one votes repub there (I did not, of course). Posts about the residuals from the Civil War are ture, I think, although I do not remember that war ever being discussed when I lived there. It is nothing that people there carry around in their daily concious thinking, that is.

But I must say, that there are a HUGE number of fundies there, and they are apparently *instructed* nowadays by their preachers to vote repuke. I saw this many times. Our departmental secretary was one of those so ordered; arguing with her afterwards was utterly futile.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:47 PM
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26. This is what I heard
I heard that in many states the Christian Coalition has representatives at every church.
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