Freepers Concerned about Democratic Victory in '04

Their fears and hopes have changed a bit over the last few weeks. Dean is now the main fear, with Gephardt a distant second. Some of them are starting to see the centrist campaign Dean is going to ram up their ass in '04 once he wins the nomination.Read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-campaign2002/950786/posts

"Dean is the best shot(I'm tempted to take bets on anyone that thinks he's a McGovern) the dems have. He's an outsider. Real change. People like that. He's a governor. Governors win, not senators. He's not completely anti-gun(although I consider him anti, and slightly worse than Bush, who isn't good anyway, on that issue). He's also acceptable to the dem base."

"John Kerry is the easiest of the top tier dems. He's Michael Dukakis combined with a little Gore(more Dukakis). He's strikes me as a pansy. He's elitist, rich, arrogant, uberliberal, backed the Sandinistas, and his wife is a loose cannon. It's also 'his turn'. When it's anyone's 'turn', it's trouble."

"Dean seems like a far-left nutjob to many right now, but that's pretty much the point of his campaign right now.. stir up the liberal base. They're the ones that are going to vote him in or out as the nominee. A general election is sure to be a different ballgame, where Dean will use his record in Vermont to paint himself as weird sort of populist/centrist hybrid. He'll be the pro-gun, yet strong gun laws candidate.. The "fiscal discipline", balanced budget candidate, trying to paint his opposition to tax cuts as a positive, responsible position. It doesn't matter (unfortunately) what the logic or merit behind these positions are. Dean could position himself for some fairly smart political manuevering a la Clinton '92. Will it work? Who knows? Let's just keep our eyes open, and hope the GOP leadership is doing the same. Never underestimate an opponent."

"Don't write Dean off too quickly. On the international front he is a loon. I also am not too impresed with his social agenda. But, there is going to be a big window open for him on the economic front. Despite the DOW the real economy is in the pits and Bush II, like Bush I, doesn't want to touch it. A protectionist Dean can really make real milage here. The economy is Bush's achilles heal. Retoric is nice; but anyone trying to find a job in this market knows the score, and no amount of media spin is going to change their mind. It will be a top issue during the campaign. Thus far Deans position on the economy is a vacant. Some vague mutterings about reversing tax cuts, and balanced budgets, but no real roadmap on what he would do to actually help generate domestic economic activity. With a total current unemployment rate of 10.6%*, it is better to have a clean slate then a crappy record; and on this Dean can develop a real advantage."

In the first place, I don't give a rat's ass what these people think, good or bad. They're mindless and delusional. Witness the reference to Kerry as a "pansy." No doub they cheered and pumped their fists when their little Boy Wonder landed on the aircraft carrier for his publicity stunt and re-election campaign kickoff. That fading idol of theirs ran and hid from duty; Kerry went to Vietnam and won the Silver Star. So they can take their "pansy" comment and shove it up their half-witted asses sideways.

Secondly, this election will not be won or lost depending on whatever the hell these so-called people are "thinking" so I really don't understand why the folks at DU are so preoccupied with it. Yes, it's a good sign when Bush's ardent supporters break ranks and criticize him, but in the end they're still going to toddle off to the booths and vote for him, because they'd rather be on their knees in front of a Republican President than standing on their feet alongside a Democratic President. So, no offense to you, but fuck these imbeciles and whatever the hell they have to say. Let's concern ourselves with matters more meaningful, on which this election might actually hinge.

You need to lighten up, my friend. A lot of people wonder, "who does the GOP fear?" My post gives a little feedback.

And I'm not condemning you. Actually, I salute you for having the gag reflex to wade through the filthy sewer that is Free Republic. It is true that whoever they whine about the loudest is probably the greatest threat to them, but in the end their blathering has as much weight and significance as duck poop. I just have a visceral gut objection to anyone actually taking their comments seriously, as if they were the product of rational thought or dignified discourse. They're like patients in the mental ward wondering what color green is today.

If Kerry is the nominee, I will give their foul sewage the same response. :kick:

Rove says he wants Dean to run against. A certain freeper might be worried about Dean but why place any value on a random poster? It's the same here where people like me see Dean as another McGovern but who am I? Just another citizen posting an opinion on a topic I care about. Many others will be contrary.

Some Dems here are bemoaning the 'fact' they can't win, and that Bush is 'unbeatable'.

Listen up chillun...the other side figures you WILL win.

Pretty bad when they're more convinced than YOU are!

Seriously, the guy hasn't a chance in hell. His time is up.

elected in the first place. I think only Kerry can beat Bush out of the pack nine now. But I keep my fingers crossed for Clark, Gore, and Hillary to enter. My dog in this race is Kerry unless Clark enters the race. I might still write in Clark anyway.


J4Clark

Kerry fought in Vietnam and won a Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, and three Purple Hearts for injuries in combat. So unless that Freeptard is writing from a trench in Iraq under heavy mortar fire, he can shove his "pansy" comment straight up his ass.

Kerry has the real military record we need to strip Commander Bunnypants of his fake military aura, which is so critical to his support. Clark has it, too. Kucinich the Half-Elf does not. Don't know about Dean.

LOL

:)

anyone but Lieberman.

I'll make the popcorn, you bring the beer, it'll be high comedy night.

I hated how in the 2000 elections one person got to say something and the other got to say something and that was that.

especially with the Prez Toejam Cementhead in the Rethug corner. All I can hope is that whomever the dem nominee is, they are unafraid to call Cementhead as he/she sees them.

Everyone HAS to know that Toejam Cementhead couldn't hold his own in an argument with a toaster, let alone another human being... Go in swinging and don't stop until he begs for his mommy.

They said liberal hate speech? How many times have we seen racist ass remarks from FR? How many times did they wish people killed they did not like? How many times did they laugh when people they don't like get killed? All countless times.

How did they find out we posted their link? They came to DU looking for good ideas and found them!!!

They are mad about allot of things going on now in the country, and get mad we know their mad:) You freepers are so cut:)

Good. I was concerned about freepers voting for Dean in the primaries. Maybe they won't now.

have weighed in on this. ;-)

Frankly I think the freeper stuff you show here is more truthful than the silly game Rove is playing (and might I add that sadly, many DUers are buying hook, line and sinker).

They fear Dean. Why? Well, he is a moderate. Some of the heads in the media have been declaring his left-wing, liberal extremist views (Sucker and NoFacts come to mind) but we know that's not true. Look around at a few of the bash-threads and see how some just loathe Dean for being a moderate (oddly enough many support candidates who stood shoulder to shoulder with the Simian on certain issues).

Dean's not an extreme anything. Bush is. Kerry could easily be portrayed as such. They fear Dean because they know he can appeal to the swing-voters that the Simian chumped last time with his bullshit. I've talked to plenty of old time politicos who back Dean that think he's not left enough for them but he's acceptable and tres' marketable. They are realists. Shockingly it seems a few freepers are too--in their assessment of Dean.

Julie

P.S. I think it is hilarious that they would call Kerry a pansy but they love their cowarly lion Bush. Idiots.