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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:16 AM
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A serious, non-bashing question for Clark supporters
In light of his recent comment about not declaring party affiliation (which I have no porblem with), would you support him still if he was to run (unlikely as it seems) as a Republican and try to take the nomination away fom Bush?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:19 AM
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1. Hell yes!
And I'm not really a clark supporter (I still dont know enough about him to make an informed decision (and YES i have looked at all of the various websites trying to get him to run). I would register repub, vote for him in the primary then change my party affil back. And oncei found out more about him i might even vote for him over lieberman or gephardt if clark's poisitions were more in line with mine. That would be funny, clark running as a reoublican but with democratic type stances on the articles against lieberman who is clearly a neo-con.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:20 AM
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3. To calrify:
By "support", I am not speaking merely of the primaries but also of voting for him in the general election.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:20 AM
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2. Would you support Bush if he ran as a Democrat?
I wouldn't.
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Northwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:21 AM
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4. No
But that has to do with him being Bush, not what party he runs under.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:33 AM
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5. Another Wack Hypothetical
If my aunt had nads she'd be my uncle.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:37 AM
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6. Would change parties work for him in primaries
so he could wipe out * cash and divide the party all the while helping him trash the * and then vote for the Dem nominee. The importance being more Dems in Senate and Congress and the WH.
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ignatiusr Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:41 AM
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7. He has virtually no Repub. characteristics
Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 10:43 AM by ignatiusr
Well, to vote for him in the general election, he would have to have already beaten Bush in the Republican primaries, which isn't going to happen. Honestly there's no reason he would run as a Republican. He's opposed to the Bush tax cuts, opposed to the Bush Medicare plan, he's pro-environment, pro-choice, and anti-war.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:45 AM
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8. Welcome to DU, ignatiusr !
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 05:33 PM
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11. Hi ignatiusr!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 10:54 AM
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9. If, say, the general election were Clark versus Dean ....
... I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven and would be too distracted by sheer joy to vote at all.

I can't answer the question; it would depend on who he was running against, and also on what emerges about all the candidates as the campaign progresses. But in general, my principle is to vote for the party, not the person, in congressional/legislative races (federal and state). For executive positions, president or governor, person can theoretically trump party, though it's been a long time since I've seen a situation in which it did. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest when it had a tradition of "progressive Republicanism," and some of the best and most liberal governors were Republicans.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 11:46 AM
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10. Lets clarify WHAT is important .....
We vote for Political PHILOSOPHIES ..... not personalities, per se ....

IF : Wesley Clark proclaimed himself a Republican, but then went on to promote public education, job training, fair taxation that placed the greatest burden on those who benefit most, and the least burden on those who need the greatest help, implemented a foreign policy based on an internationalist worldview that sought and received international consensus, working together with the other nations of the world to suppress wrongdoing in the world, supported child care and transportation assistance for those seeking work, supported a SOLID social security fund that maintained solvency through our lives and beyond .... supported Head Start, public funding of college education for those who cannot afford tuition, foos stamps for those who are hungry, higher minimum wages and health care for those who need it ....

Yeah: .... IF Wesley Clark (or ANYONE else, for that matter) declared himself a Republican, and ALSO supported those policy initiatives, then I might consider voting for Wesley Clark, the republican .....

THe problem is: .... Wesley Clark, though his public declarations of support of SOME of those initiatives, provides insight into his own political proclivities by voicing support for themes that are NOT endearing to those of the GOP persuasion ....

One might ask: .... IF Teddy Kennedy declared himself a Republican, without changing his suport of liberal policies, would Republicans vote for him ? ....

Would Democrats vote for Tom Delay if he changed party affiliation ? ...

No ....... we wouldnt ....

A man is free to associate with ANY party he chooses: ... it doesnt mean he FITS into that party's general worldview .....

From what I understand, from what I've heard: .... Wesley Clark is as Republican as Bush is 'compassionate' ...

He doesnt have to overtly declare a party affiliation for us to know he is a progressive .....

Even having said that: ..... I dont think I can vote for him of he declared GOP ..... I will NOT vote for that party ....
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