North Korea Non-Aggression Policy - Democratic Underground

FatbackSlim

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Sat Aug-02-03 10:45 AM
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North Korea Non-Aggression Policy

Have any of the leading candidates stated a position on whether or not we should sign a non-aggression treaty with North Korea? That seems to be one of Kim's big demands...one that I don't think we should agree to.

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MattNC

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Sat Aug-02-03 10:58 AM
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1. not that i've heard

a non-aggression treaty doesn't bother me so much as needing to come to some sort of agreement on their weapons/technology trafficking.

i feel good about the prospects of toning this conflict down, though; not sure why, i just do.

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whoYaCallinAlib

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:06 AM
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2. Yeah it worked great when Clinton signed one.

N.Koreans violated it before the ink dried. They took our billions in extortion money for not developing nuclear weapons and, by their own admission, went right out and did what? You got it . . . developed nuclear weapons. Repeat after me . . . YOU . . . CAN . .. NOT . . . TRUST . . . THE . . . NORTH . . . KOREANS.

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:11 AM
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3. that wasn't what happened at all

We told a country without power to shut down it's nuclear power plant and offered to build them a light water reactor instead and then never gave them a cent.

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whoYaCallinAlib

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:11 AM
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4. You are WAY, WAY off base.

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:15 AM
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5. like what?

Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 11:15 AM by StandWatie

We sent a trickle of fuel oil that didn't come close to the energy Yongbyon produced, is this the great "extortion" you speak of?

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whoYaCallinAlib

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:17 AM
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6. Where on earth are you getting your "news"?

Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 11:33 AM by whoYaCallinAlib

No disrespect but if you would spend a few minutes doing a search on Clinton and Korea you would see that we sent over $2.3 billion in "aid" to North Korea and began construction of two light water nuclear reactors in exchange for a promise to halt develoment of nuclear weapons and certain missles.

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:19 AM
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7. so where are these reactors?

They don't exist, I don't care what your news told you or what you took away, they were never built.

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whoYaCallinAlib

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:22 AM
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8. Okay, I'm not here to teach you how to research news.

Goodbye.

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:28 AM
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9. see ya

have fun watching the crawler on CNN and telling everyone else how informed you are.

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Trek234

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:34 AM
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10. Don't worry

He is running republican talking points here.

I have heard various republicans state EXACTLY what he is saying. That's where he is getting his news from...

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 11:40 AM
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11. the funny thing is..

Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 11:40 AM by StandWatie

I'm sure it doesn't even matter that all that money NK "extorted" from us never got there, what money was spent is now sitting in Don Rumsfeld and ABB's pockets. NK still ripped us off :crazy:

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German-Lefty

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Sat Aug-02-03 12:24 PM
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12. Funny thing is even CNN mentioned

that we screwed the out of some fuel oil among other things. Well at least a pundent there. Still to shut guys like that up, you could have posted some links to stories that prove your point instead of telling him to do the research.

That way I'd have something cool to read:-)

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StandWatie

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Sat Aug-02-03 12:38 PM
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13. I just thought it would be interesting

to imagine him scouring the web looking for the location of these reactors we built for NK.

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wuushew

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Sat Aug-02-03 12:56 PM
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14. Actually the North Koreans lived up to the language of the agreement

which froze development of a plutonium weapons program. The activity which they continued slowly since the 1994 agreement was a uranium enrichment program. However the 1994 agreement was a good start and avoided war with North Korea in the 1990's. As we have seen though the bush administration really fucked things over and destroyed any chance of a sunshine policy.

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whoYaCallinAlib

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Sat Aug-02-03 01:33 PM
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15. Okay, explain this.

Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 01:36 PM by whoYaCallinAlib

In 15 minutes I found over 20 articles on the US providing billions in aid to North Korea including construction (not yet completed) of two nuclear plants.

Here is just one.

www.policy.house.gov/subcommittees/ 107/html/news_release.cfm.729.html

If you have any trouble linking, just copy and paste url on Google and it will take you right there.

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