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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:33 AM
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WTC Attack Victims Say It Best
""I find it offensive that he has used 9/11 as a pretext for the election," said Colleen Kelly, whose brother, Bill Kelly Jr., died in the World Trade Center and who has become a leader of the victims' movement. For her, "9/11 was a failure of this President to act."

Ron Willett of Walnut Shade, Mo., was quoted by Reuters as saying he was disgusted when he saw the ads. Mr. Willett, whose 29-year-old son John Charles was killed, said he is now so upset, "I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I would vote for Bush.""

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040305/ELECTIONADS05/TPInternational/Americas
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:35 AM
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1. have any of the families...
...spoken positively about the ad? I don't remember seeing anything, but I may have missed it.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:37 AM
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2. Yes unfortunately
on Debra Norville last night, some Bush hack who lost her husband was glorifying our "leader" saying how wonderful his "leadership" was and that he was doing everything he could...blah blah, ad naseum..

on the other hand Kristen Breitweiser was brilliant, simply brillant!

what kind of person loses their husband and then glorifies the people who probably had something to do with killing him? these repukes are beyond the pale
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:42 AM
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5. I figured there had to be someone.
Unfortunately this will probably make their objections a wash.

I wonder if they got permission from the firefighters, or their families, to use them in the commercial. That might be another route of attack.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:39 AM
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3. There was one on Hardball
last night.

I'm sorry I can't remember her name. i'll have to go to the transcripts to find out. Also, Tweety did a pretty good job of grilling the other woman on the show who was talking about how disgusted she was with the ads/bush*. So it was sort of two-against-one.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:58 AM
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9. I didn't see that, but I understand
he asked her for whom she had voted in 2000.

What POSSIBLE difference should that make? Is he implying that the opinions of the victims families can only be important if they voted for Bush in 2000? That otherwise they are just too politically biased to matter?

That is almost as despicable as the use of human remains for political gain.

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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:39 AM
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4. Extremely good sign.
Everybody was saying that Bush has an edge on National Security and Foreign Policy and yet:

a) The biggest security failure happened on his watch.

b) If he had stood up and been a real leader, the first point would be cancelled out. But he was not a leader that we could all respect. He politicized 9/11 from day 1. He used it to make the U.S. more restricitve and get us into an illegal war. Now he is using it to get him re-elected. It is despicable.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:48 AM
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6. Here's a poll
http://www.aroundrr.com/Poll/index.asp
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:51 AM
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7. time to 'Let's Re-Roll" Lisa Beamer?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:51 AM
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8. you know, their strategy
is to condition the people and ok with the people to use 9/11 is their right to do and defining bush so he can do a celebration in sept for their convention. that is what all this is about and what i am hearing in their words to the people. not about commercial they dont care about that. they just want the fuss over with now, and in summer dies down so they can use in sept without a big fight cause we have settled here this spring
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 11:32 AM
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10. This story leads BBC Word News (TV)
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 11:36 AM by cmorea
Not getting such prominent coverage over here, is it?

They reported that the firefighters also objected to the use of their guy's images in the ad. They complained that shub's cutting funding for anti-terror mission in USA.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:15 PM
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11. I know for the rest of my life
whenever I see or hear about the events of that terrible day, I will despair at how the people in those towers and planes felt, and the horror their loved ones and friends went through. And to the end of my days it will always make me blubber. To see these events depicted in a political ad is just ubelievably disgusting. It's shameful.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:20 PM
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14. I agree-my father was a firefighter. I can't bare to watch any footage
of 9-11. All those people who died because the Bush admin dropped the ball and ignored intelligence information. He won't appear before the 9-11 commission, but he'll use the tragedy for political gain. Disgusting! :mad:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:27 PM
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15. RR, I should have added, the turmoil felt by the rescue workers
I remember for days, weeks after, I told myself THEY WILL FIND BIG POCKETS OF SURVIVORS. And they never did. It crushed me; I cannot imagine how those rescue workers felt. And for the firemen, losing all their buddies - oh, I'm ready to start blubbering just thinking about it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:18 PM
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12. also i will remember universal mourning
and how bush gracefully threw that out to be pompous and arrogant and all the good will he said screw you too

so as they proudly show that moment, maybe move on should put together a commercial of the world laying flowers for the dead, and then go to bush ranting about the evil triangle and screw france and germany and russia and mexico, then flip to today, him going to all these country to mend fences. you want to tell me any current president that has to go worldwide hat in hand trying to mend fences
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:19 PM
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13. "I would vote for Saddam Hussein before I would vote for Bush.""
Shit...I think I would agree with that. :-(
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