two masonic lodge murders in one day - get on your hats

morgan2

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:15 PM
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two masonic lodge murders in one day - get on your hats

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=4532154

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A Masonic initiation ritual ended in tragedy when a man was shot in the head and killed with a gun thought to contain blanks, police said on Tuesday.

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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=4531930�ion=news

ANKARA (Reuters) - An explosion wrecked a building belonging to a Masonic lodge in Turkey's business capital Istanbul Tuesday evening, killing three people and injuring at least seven, NTV commercial television reported.

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htuttle

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:16 PM
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1. Will no one help this poor widow's son?

:evilgrin:

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displacedtexan

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:16 PM
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2. I noticed that, too.

Weird.

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Khephra

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:21 PM
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3. Now I'm REALLY interested

Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 07:21 PM by khephra

I'll have to point this out to my Brethren at tomorrow's Stated Meeting. I wonder what they'll have to say about this. I don't know what the status of Turkish Masonry is in regards to American Masonry.

And a gun? That must be part of either Scottish Rite or York Rite, because I've never heard of anything like that being used in the Blue Lodges. Either that or it's a clandestine Lodge (clandestine means "not part of regular Masonry")

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lapislzi

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:25 PM
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4. not Scottish

(don't ask me how I know this; I know more about Scottish Rite Freemasonry than a woman should)

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Khephra

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:28 PM
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5. York Rite is big on swords

Hmmmm....I'm checking with a few sources, but my gut is telling me that something isn't right about this.

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DemBones DemBones

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:32 PM
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6. Hey, Kef, I have a question about Masons:

does the order keep records about members such as birthdate, place of bith, maybe even parents' names? I'm asking because it would help a lot with genealogical research on one line of my family. I've got one great-grandfather on whom all I have is an obituary, which is a source of great info about his work and leisure activities. He was a 32nd degree Mason and a Shriner. The temple he belonged to still exists and I'm sure they have records, but are they likely to help me?

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Khephra

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Tue Mar-09-04 07:36 PM
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7. I've heard that Lodges have been known to help out with genealogy before

I guess it would depend on the state and the Lodge. I'd call the Grand Lodge in your state and ask.

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DemBones DemBones

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Tue Mar-09-04 09:23 PM
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8. Thanks! I now live in the state where the

afore-mentioned Shrine temple is -- it's the big Yaarab Temple on Ponce de Leon in Atlanta -- so that should help in finding the right person to talk to.

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Khephra

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Tue Mar-09-04 09:33 PM
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9. Heck, just call the Grand Lodge.

Or the Shrine. Unlike Lodges, there's usually someone on phone duty there. At a Temple it's probably a full time employee. With Lodges, they're not open all the time, but the Grand Lodge is the business center of the state's Masonry, so you can usually find someone answering the phones during business hours.

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