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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:49 PM
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What's with Fox and the "Homicide" bombers?
Are those guys cute or what?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:51 PM
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1. * called them that in 2001 and FAUX adopted his term.
I'm sure there's a whole * lingo book over there at FAUX.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:54 PM
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2. they're still using that term?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:55 PM
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3. "suicide" bomber means you're "soft" on terrorism...its a known/unknown.
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:57 PM
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4. I am OK with the term-
It makes as much sense as "suicide bombers" which implies suicide only-it is the only thing I will defend Fox on-I actually don't watch it even though I am missing out on what the opposition watches. Hannity and O'reilly are the Scylla and Charybdis of American political life.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:04 PM
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10. Yeah
You could say suicide is when you blow yourself up, homicide is when you blow someone else up, so we could coin the phrase suicide-homicide or suihomicide or homisuicide or something. But of course in either of the simpler cases, (suicide or homicide) we all know what happened is someone blew themselves up, at least trying to blow someone else up with them. But, really, aren't they just trying to be cute, inserting a subtle editorial comment??
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:10 PM
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14. No.
With homicide bomber you don't know that the bomber blew himself up. Suicide bombs are relatively new in the history of terrorism.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:53 PM
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27. Well the diferance between the two is
A "Homicide Bombing" can be ANY type of attack (ie. putting a bomb on an airplane) while a "Suicide Bombing" is basically the same attack, only the perpetrator intentionally killds himself during the process (ie. has a bomb strapped to his waist).

...I hate the use of "Homicide Bombings" because it's part of Fox's overall bias towards the GOP in the way they say it.
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:30 PM
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21. I agree they are trying to be cute with the term-but
the word suicide reminds me of Sylvia Plath or Goethe -anyway i have now written way too many posts about Fox news and I feel dirty and must take a shower!
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:34 PM
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23. bless you - cleanse yourself
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:41 PM
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25. LOL!
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:59 PM
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5. The idiots!
God, I hate that term. Anyone who kills something with a bomb is a "homicide bomber." Tim McVeigh was a homicide bomber, the Atlanta Park Bombing asshole was a homicide bomber, Unabomber, etc etc etc. Stop being so frigging cute, Faux, and call them what they are.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:10 PM
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13. the American military would be "homicide bombers" too
or any military for that matter.

Faux is so fucking stupid.
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 08:59 PM
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6. suicide reinforces the matyrdom and honor of the act
of which there is none. Homicide calls it what it is. Though i prefer "genocidal bombers"
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:08 PM
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11. Suicide refers to the fact that
the bomber committed suicide. It was used to distinguish how the terrorists in the 90s began killing themselves while bombing since before this was rarely done in the whole world.
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napsi Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:00 PM
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7. I have to admit
the term "homicide bombers" correctly reflects the act. While these whack jobs do committ suicide, the intent is to kill many people around them. Suicide was not their goal but just a result of their "job"
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:13 PM
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16. give me a break. It's silly. American pilots are "homicide bombers"
because they kill people with bombs.

"Suicide bombers" is an apt description, it's just a form of republican double-speak that Pox News has adopted because they hate the Palestinians.

I'm amazed anyone here would support this doublespeak from our leading propaganda news network.
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Katherine2 Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:24 PM
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18. It is doublespeak
They are trying to downplay the fact that the suicide bombers are so dedicated to their cause (misguided though they may be) that they are willing to do it even though they are certain they will die. One of the suicide bombers interviewed on some news show said they feel like they're going to be killed by the Israelis eventually anyway, so why not take a few of them with them.

Bush calls them homicide bombers, too, when he's not calling them evildoers.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:00 PM
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8. it's a good way to recognize trolls on DU
because they tend to use the term. :)
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:08 PM
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12. So true.
So, so true.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:03 PM
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9. Objectively, 'homicide' bomber is a less apt description
'Suicide' bomber tells you all you need to know. A 'homicide' bomber could be sipping a martini as he activates the detonator from miles away. 'Suicide' tells you the bomber killed himself as well to damage his target.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:11 PM
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15. Everyone should call them homicide bombers...
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 09:11 PM by zwade
I got no love for terrorist.. one man's terrorist is another mans freedom fight i suppose.. but they aint my freedom fighter...
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CerealMurderer Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:21 PM
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17. I think it's meant to focus on the victims instead of the suicide moron
The term suicide implies someone kills themself and their life was a struggle. In the cases of the suicide bombings today the goal of the bomber is to murder as many innocents as possible. In these cases the bomber should NEVER be made out as a victim (suicide) and the focuse should be on what a disgusting moranic murdering scumbag that he or she really was.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:27 PM
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19. The phrase "Suicide" bomber" has an air of desperation.
It hasn't been sanitized enough. Homicide bomber has a much more sinister connotation to it. The goal is to make Israel look the victim so people don't ask questions about human rights, war crimes and illegal settlements.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:28 PM
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20. Isn't homicide-bomber
a tautology? Or are they trying to keep us from being confused by people who blow up bombs not designed to kill people?
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:39 PM
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24. I had to look that up
I think you are right. Looks like I learned something today.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:32 PM
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22. By definition any bomber that kills someone is a homocide bomber
it's not a clear

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:48 PM
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26. "Homicide" is a criminal term.

We have this debate in 2001 when many of us wanted this treated as an international criminal issue rather than as a pretext for endless misleading wars. Calling them "homicide" bombers was intended to muddy the waters and let Bush play both sides.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:58 PM
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28. only faux is dim enough to push this

suicide bombers commit suicide and possibly homicide

bombers who kill, commit homicide

homicide bombers is meaningless.

suicide bombers appropriately the conveys the nature, the 'type,' of attack.

in fact, idiots like the insipid chimp and fauxfrauds only use the term "homicide bombers' to describe 'suicide bombers'

ever hear McVeigh referred to as a 'homicide bomber' ?

ignore 'em
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