Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How long til BushCo subverts and overthrows the Socialists in Spain?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:36 AM
Original message
How long til BushCo subverts and overthrows the Socialists in Spain?
Now, you know that BushCo is talking about how they are gong to deal with the Socialists in Spain that won a huge victory Sunday. (Gee, Spain votes on a Sunday?)

BushCO will no doubt start focuing the resources of the NED on Spain now. Will they start funding the conservatives there through the NED and its sub-entities? Will they try some kind of economic undermining of Spain's economy? YOu know they will be paying members of the conservative party to organize and so forth. What kinds of unrest do you see happening in Spain now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:44 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good question
What is the US record on coups in industrialized nations?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:46 AM
Response to Original message
2. Destabilizing Europe would be an exponential escalation. I don't think
this crew are THAT nuts. We would have no allies at all then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:47 AM
Response to Original message
3. like george orwell
I will travel to spain to fight the fascist armies..(bush and co)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:48 AM
Response to Original message
4. Blair is next
This next election should similarly crown Brown the king and depose
the complicit ghassanid with budh. Likely seeing the success the
bombing had on the poll, such a trick should be watched for in the
next british poll.

Mussolini berlusconi could go down in a foaming sea of lawsuits if
this trend opens up... What a kick! Then the danish right might
fall to the left and chiraq down as well.

The EU is 1 confidence vote away from being intensely non-atlantic.
The scale is tipped. Bush will be tipped himself. He fucked with
the wrong people (his own citizens) and he's going down.

Liberal people rule!! don't fuck with us. Britain should change
its leader to the next liberal man standing. Geopolitically, were
such a power to join together, (britain joining euro) then the
EU could pull the dead weight dropped by the US decline to keep the
global economy from collapsing as the US empire overreaches and
bankrupts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. WOW
great post!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:20 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Benito Berlusconi
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:50 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. I think that the people are liberal and it is world wide.
It takes a up to date society to live in this world and this silly 'cowboy' stuff or doing it alone is just not with it at all. I think we should go the way of Europe and get with other countries. I have it in the back of my mind that Europe has figured out that after 100's of years of wars with each other, that it just does not pay. Why we have picked up the war business is just to far out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 07:39 AM
Response to Reply #4
11. Blair is going nowhere
not least because Brown doesn't want to push the issue anymore. If he was ever going to jump on Blair, it would have been right before top-up fees and Hutton. Brown called his dogs off to allow Tony to win top-up fees, and will wait until the next parliament for his premiership. Whether he gets it or not is a different issue.

V
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. fuck that toady Gordon Brown
Robin Cook was right about the war and WMDs and had the conviction to resign his position rather than work with a lying war criminal government. I know he's not popular, and he's Scottish, but as far as I can tell he's the only senior Labour politician with any credibility right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #13
14. Well said
but Cook can do nothing - his time is long gone. The European elections this summer will tell us how wide the dislike of Blair is, but I have few doubts that he will be returned for a third term - or that Howard will succeed him (heaven forbid).

V
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. I agree about cook being the right man for the job
just realpolitik. Brown might turn out to be a historic labour
prime minister. Just i hope he's matured about his drugs policy
views.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:06 AM
Response to Original message
6. What are Spain's major trading partners in the Western hemisphere? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Spain's trading partners
"Spain's main trading partners are EU countries, representing 70.9% of exports and 63.2% of imports. Japan accounted for 0.9% of exports and 2.9% of imports in year 2000. Latin American countries made up 6% of Spanish exports and 4.1% of imports, while the U.S. accounted for 4.8% of Spanish exports and 5.2% of imports."

http://www.facilitycity.com/busfac/bf_02_03_intl.asp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vernunft II Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:23 AM
Response to Original message
9. Spain has re-joined Europe with this vote.
Now Blair stands alone. But I´m confident the next elections in rainy Brittany will fix that :-)

As a side note, all elections in Europe are on Sundays or holidays. How else would the majority of people vote here ? Unless a government wouldn´t want people to vote it... Hang on. Am I on to something here ?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. When is the next election in Britain that Blair will be in?
when is that next British election in which The Poodle is at risk?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:07 AM
Response to Original message
16. I'd bet the Spanish would think "bring it on!"
Spain is joining with Germany and France and will send troops if so requested by the United Nations, but not if so requested by Bush. It now has more alllies looking out than it did when it was dependent on the United States for support.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 20th 2024, 08:04 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC