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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:37 AM
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Raleigh City Council Member objects to "sexual orientation"
http://newsobserver.com/news/triangle/story/3415714p-3035454c.html

RALEIGH -- City Council member Mike Regan said his religious beliefs prompted him to speak up against a council-appointed commission's request to update its mission statement to add that it would advocate for all people regardless of sexual orientation.
Regan said Friday that he was surprised when commission chairman Eugene Weeks and the rest of a three-member council committee reviewing the request went along with him this week. Other members of the committee are Philip Isley and Thomas Crowder.
The full council will consider the Human Resources and Human Relations Advisory Commission's requests Tuesday. The council also will consider the commission's recommendations to change its name to the Human Relations Commission and trim the number of members from 18 to 13.

Regan said that adding "sexual orientation" to the mission statement legitimizes a behavior that he said the Bible calls abhorrent.

"I'm the kind of Christian who believes every word of the Bible literally," said Regan, who represents central North Raleigh. "I've read the Bible several times, and my first allegiance is to God, who is my king. I need to stand up for his laws and ordinances before any other. And I think that our city, our state and our country will be better off if we follow his laws and ordinances."


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Isn't there some stuff in the Bible about selling your children, too?

:crazy:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:40 AM
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1. I sure hope Regan hasn't worn clothing of two materials...
Also...what part of THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A THEOCRACY do these people not understand?!?!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:40 AM
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2. I applaud his integrity.
It's good that he, as a politician, has actually decided to stand up for what he believes in as opposed to taking teh politically expedient route.

Now, that being said, let's vote the sorry bastard out. I live here in Raliegh and I am defiantely going to work at this goal.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:47 AM
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7. He's not in my district, unfortunately...
n/t
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:14 AM
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13. Mine either.
Dosen't mean I can't work agaisnt him. Just can't vote against him.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:59 AM
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9. I'm up the road from you
in Garner and if you need some help let me know!
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:13 AM
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12. Will do.
First need to find out when he comes up for re-election.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:40 AM
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3. People who read the bible like a newspaper
are the most dangerous.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:58 AM
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8. And its totally not correct.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 10:58 AM by VTMechEngr
Ask this: Did Jesus say, "here is the way it is folks," or did he use parables to make people think? You should read the Bible the way Jesus taught!
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:42 AM
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4. I really don't care what it says in the bible, but I DO care about
our Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I think elected officials should spend a bit more time reading those. If this persons "first allegiance is to God, who is my king. I need to stand up for his laws and ordinances before any other." he has declared himself unfit for office.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:43 AM
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5. There's something about...
...Stoning your children when they lie.

His kids never lie, I assume.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:47 AM
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6. "my first allegiance is to God"
If he doesn't believe in Government of, for and by the PEOPLE then he should not be on the city council IMO.
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:02 AM
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10. You May Enjoy this
From the internet - Author unknown

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1: 9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21: 7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp
Snopes has a good History of the letter.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:11 AM
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11. Well someone needs...
...to remind this jerk off that as a public worker he has to leave his personal beliefs at home, and do what is best for every single person in the community.

What a fucking looser!
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:33 AM
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14. "You cannot serve two masters
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 11:34 AM by Touchdown
...God and Caesar." Someone whould tell Mikey here that if God is his King, then he CANNOT serve the people of Raleigh as well....because it's against the Bible.

...Then again, he probably skipped over that part. The only parts of the Bible that are important to these people, are the convinient ones that only apply to somebody else.:eyes:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:07 PM
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15. Stories like this make me glad
That I moved away from the Krazy Kristian Krusaders of North Carolina.

It's a beautiful state, just too many bible thumpers.
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canuckagainstBush Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:08 PM
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16. Dumb fundies
When will these fundies realize that most of Leviticus before 20:13 is instructions for animal sacrifice that are no more or no less important than 20:13?
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:09 PM
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17. The Bible contradicts itself in many places.
Therefore, logically, if anybody claims to have read it several times and believes every word is the literal truth then they are liars.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:18 PM
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18. So glad I live in Durham-Chapel Hill side
Both cities have passed domestic partner provisions that let co-habiting partners share things like insurance and survivor benefits for municipal workers.
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