There is a big hole where the soul

should be in some Americans. There is a void where a brain should be. There is a violent, furious mein, covered up with suits and clean shaven faces and short quick responses to complex situations.

I saw Nightline last night or maybe the night before. There was this gung ho investment banker from New York from a Marine group that went into Iraq in the first wave. He described how he got psyced up about what he was doing: "I just kept the image of the WTC blowing up in my thoughts"........

He is then depicted coming back from Iraq and going back to the same office to work. Everything just as it was except he is a "little sharper" and his leadership skills have improved. .......


I almost puked. The non-existent link between Iraq and 9/11 has been successfully passed off as conventional wisdom. These gung ho fools don't know anything about reality except images from a cathode ray tube falsely associated with the enemy in their sights. Is it that simple? Is that all the fascists have to do is show some images of violence and point in the direction of a country ripe for exploitation and tell these Homo Americanus's--a different specie-- to attack.

This country is going to pay for this, and dearly. We are going to bleed and bleed and bleed as our young people get sent off to slaughter. The despicable manipulation of public opinion with this kind of propoganda is deadly, horrible. We may not survive this; it could just be that this country gets involved in one stupid ass campaign after another until we collectively collapse from exhaustion. Like proverbial laboratory rats on a treadmill who know nothing about the larger reality.

I am losing my interest in this specie after seeing this. People like this person who must be deliberately turning a blind eye to the truth are truly a new phenomenon. They are totally mallible violent automatons for the corporate war machine, little differant than the Terminator, except that this investment banker is working daily with complex business operations. He must have access to a computer in his off hours. He must have seen some of the controversy about Iraq, yet he locks onto these images and does his job, he ignores this controversy.

This is a very, very, sick boy here. This person is a psychopath in disguise and the people who were with him are too. I can no longer accept ignorance or innocence when I see people who are doing these kind of jobs requiring these kinds of thinking skills acting the way they do. They have a fury in them that was allowed to express itself in Iraq. Where will they vent this fury here at home?

IMO we have a much bigger problem than simply kids being sent off to an immoral war, we have a very sick crop of young people who are going to be leading this country in one form or another. They will be among us with all of this rage and they will, for one reason or another, never deal with it.

WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH THAT RAGE?


We are going to pay and pay dearly for this.

:sad:

scenario. Thank you for this post. Truth is becoming an increasingly scarce, and therefore precious to those of us who love it, commodity these days.

The investment banker embodies mainstream American values. Maybe it is in a sick sort of way, a mercy that so few realize what they have become.

They know they are lying. They are propaganda masters who work for the US. They are lying and they know it.

The CIA and the NSA put these people in the news every now and than and they work for the goverment do they have to play ball. It's just propaganda.

And it articulates my feelings very well.

While DU loungers are have seen the following laments from me, I'll repeat them once again.

1) Election Results: Bush loses in landslide, 58%/42%. Sure, a good portion of the folks in that 42% are ignorant, but it's hard to come to terms w/ living in a country where, say, 20%--and growing--are the willfully ignorant type you captured above so beautifully.

And Madison Avenue is aware of them. Hence, lament number


2) Marketing Pet Peeve: This fake folk song for Pepsi. I keep hearing on radio here in LA. "And why do poor soldiers have to...well, look so soldiery." That's right, a folk song parody that makes you anticipate that the singer will talk ceasless wars and needless deaths, but goes for the post-ironic laugh instead. Ha-ha. I guess it would be one thing if it were peacetime, but to hear that in a break in the news after more Iraq deaths have been announced really highlights, for me at least, the willful disconnect you mention.

Keep writing, 9215.

hybrid... The war-like nature of the Klingons with none of the honor, and the sneaky, underhand, winner take all nature of the Romulans.

Add in a touch of Delen's race (from Babylon 5), something to the effect that they lose their sanity collectively when they go to war, and I think we have the Homo Americanus of whom you speak.

Sad,scary, sad, scary, repeat, ad nauseaum.

and I share your angst.


non-existent link between Iraq and 9/11 has been successfully passed off as conventional wisdom.

It sure has, along with a lot of other concepts that have been revised by Bush. This propaganda team is ten times more effective than Goebbels could ever have wished to be.

They are also on the verge of success in passing off the attack on Iraq as a wonderful undertaking even if they did have to lie to us about it over and over and they will do that for eight months hence.

So that in the end, most will believe that the world is better off with Saddam gone, even though we had to kill ten thousand of their innocent people to take him out.

Think of how many things that have just gone by and have been successfully shoved down the memory hole, or transformed into a whole other story--

They all are in lockstep also--as if they rehearse nightly what they are going to say to the press the next day.

Today, on my Yahoo page, the headlines were nothing but Bush and his wars. Over and over, the headline changed every 20 minutes but it was alwasy about Bush. He gave a speech and for quite a while, hogged the TV screen on CSpan, as if he owned it.

they played on that speech all day long with different headlines and no one questioned a thing. Lockstep they played it up. There was no analysis at all. The reporting was all an ass kissing of Bush.

Tommorrow, he will be giving a speech with Jeb--more war, more killing , more concentration on scaring Americans out of their wits. And if this keeps up and I have no reason to think that his well paid propaganda nmachine is going to take a vacation, it is possible he can defeat Kerry--by the sheer arrogance of this propaganda blitz and the sheer stupidity of the Anerican people.

belongs to the repukes now. Tomorrow is time to take it to the streets join one of our public anti-war protests.Funny you should use the word lockstep,the first thing the nazi's did was take away the airwaves.:beer: Fuck i'm drunk-----getting ready for the peace rally in toledo tomorrow.Please join us.

I am more and more of the opinion that some Americans are not deluded; they are just plain mean. I see it every day in my community.

I was talking to a high school student today who told me that he WANTED to go to Iraq. He said he wanted to kill some "ragheads". I asked him if he heard that from Rush or from Faux TV. I think it was lost on him - he didn't know what I was talking about.

Now, I know that kind of talk doesn't come spontaneously from the brain of an adolescent -- he heard it somewhere -- from Rush, or Hannity, or maybe from his parents.

But here's my conflict. It breaks my heart to look at the young men and women in my community and know that Bush sees them as just cannon fodder. It's shameful. On the other hand, when I hear this vitriol toward Arabs coming from their mouths and I know some of them will enlist and end up in Iraq and come face to face with the horrors of war I think, "Well, good enough for them." You can only do so much to save people from themselves.

on edit> I forgot: 9215 said this country is going to pay dearly. Well, if you believe in karmic debt, then I shudder to think of what is in store for America to pay for what we've perpetrated.

Let me add, before I get flamed, that I'm not talking about people like Mari's step-son, who signed up, I'm sure, to defend this country if need be against a real threat, and instead have been sent to a hell-hole to serve the greed of that insect infesting the WH. But it's the one's who really want to go, to "kick ass". You try to tell them, but they won't listen.

The neo-con fascists have most media, and another Powell runs the FCC.
We are fed the most staggering LIES 24/7.
I agree a lot with what you posted.

on here. What gets me is how easy it is for these vile sleaze that have so much power to dehumanize people. To goddamn easy.

Good to hear from you bob.

should be. Many of you have said this beautifully, I couldn't say any thing better than what many you have said here..

I too see the exact same things as you...people who are extremely intelligent, but refuse to acknowledge the obvious lies and deceit of BushCo.

Remember the OJ trial? I feel there are many similarities to what's going on now and how divided we were then. I was perplexed then at the way many seemingly intelligent people disregarded the facts in favor of other issues. I considered myself to be on the side of reason then as I do now. But I also felt sorry because the country was so divided about the case. When that kind of division happens, people lose contact with each other and become polarized. Just as I walked the streets the day of the OJ verdict wondering which side the people I passed were on, I do the same now, only I wonder if they are pro-Bush or not.

It felt like the same wounds were reopened one year ago when the war started. I was dismayed for at least six months leading up to the war as I heard lie after obvious lie from local "liberal" talk show hosts. One is a former lawyer, and is the most snide sleazebag imagineable. Example:

3/11/04: Welcome to my blog! I am delighted to have the opportunity to share thoughts, beefs, ideas and other products of my fertile mind--or is that a field of fertilizer?--I know that's what some have suggested, but I am undeterred.

Today's breaking news is that the husband of ultra-lib Chicago congresswoman Jan Schakowsky has been indicted on bank fraud and tax charges. The best part of the story is the following paragraph: "The indictment also says Creamer caused a series of insufficiently funded checks and wire transfers to be drawn on accounts he controlled as executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund.That's a not-for-profit public interest organization." How perfect is that? I don't want to be misunderstood.

I don't know if Mr. Creamer has done anything wrong. So far he is only accused. I also don't know if he has another source of income, but I suspect that this 'public interest' thing is his full-time gig. Can there ever be a liberal who doesn't work for the government, a college or university or one of these do-gooder groups? In other words, who has a real job? OK, teaching in a university is a real job, but it's not exactly the high stress I-may-be-gone-tomorrow-if-I-don't-produce routine most people face. So, repeating, can there ever be a liberal with a real job?

Another, I actually admired, until he began shouting at and hanging up on callers who questioned the war. These people brag about their vacations, their home remodeling projects--they are paid handsomely by advertisers and each gets to do local commercials. They worship the dollar. But, only BushCo stands to profit directly from the lies and corruption. You really have to wonder what makes the others set their brains aside to jump on the bandwagon of greed and power grabs.

And then there are the bottom feeders. Those who listen, who have little or no money, or even jobs--and yet they dismiss the truth. I heard a Hannity caller tonight say there is no real unemployment because in Grand Rapids he knows two or three people who are collecting unemployment and working several jobs as well. :eyes:

These people are truly evil. I have tried to equate their usage of the media to dominate the political landscape to the domination of the media by liberals years ago. I cannot reconcile the two. The big difference is that the liberal media was responsible enough to tell the truth--most of the time at least. This has to backfire at some point, whether it's through civil war or some other means. The question I think that is more important than what we do with their rate is what do we do with our outrage? We are a new market waiting to happen. We have the resources to recreate the media--and I believe we well. Necessity of the mother of invention. And Lord knows we need a media that represents our interests.

This is a very depressing thing to see people like this investment banker. As KissmyAsscroft points out there may be CIA plants putting this crap out. That seems likely to me.

I just can't imagine someone doing what this guy did and coming back so full of vim and vigor. Something is fishy.