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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:37 AM
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What a fucking joke
Is this what so many DUers really care about????

550 plus responses to a question about fucking?????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=38682&mesg_id=38682


This board is turning into trivial pursuit. I have to wade through this shit to get to a topic of relevance. People, if you are interested in this shit just go stay in the lounge or find a chat line somewhere.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:41 AM
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1. Concur.
I also think we waste way too much time making up phoney issues to argue about. We construct way to many boogiemen to be worried about. We love tearing each other down just as much if not more that Bush simply because someone doesn't share our viewpoint.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:42 AM
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2. Um
It's about rape, not just fucking. People on both sides of that particular issue feel very strongly about it, as evinced by the multitude of responses.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:46 AM
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3. It may be trivial to you...
Apparently not so much so to others. Would you prefer another another "(fill in the blank) cannot possibly win" or "I hate Bush" thread?

It's not like the board is ill designed to make a person wade through 500+ responses to a single thread to get to the next one. If the topic doesn't interest me, I just don't click on it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:49 AM
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5. amen
I haven't even opened that thread. As I have seen it grow I am all the less interested in it. I don't understand the whining about threads folks don't like. Don't like it, don't read it. Easy.

Julie
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:47 AM
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4. Rape is pretty serious stuff
I agree that we have our share of silliness on DU, but I don't think discussions about rape are silly.

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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:53 AM
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6. Yeah damn right! Stupid women's issues.
What else don't you think is worthy so we can avoid subjects that irritate your greatness?

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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:14 PM
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24. Humm, if you had been raped you might change your mind
Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 10:15 PM by VoteClark
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:22 PM
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27. I think Spentastic is being sarcastic.
EOM
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:10 AM
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7. That thread was NOT "just about fucking",
it involved the issue of rape. Or does that not concern you? Here's a simple solution when you come across threads you don't like, get ready, I managed to figure this one out all by myself believe it or not, and here it is: ignore the thread, don't click on it or read it. Here, I'll say it a little louder, IGNORE THE THREAD, DON'T CLICK ON IT OR READ IT.

Amazing solution, isn't it? Surprised no one's come up with it before. But, since you don't think trivial issues like rape are really all that important, maybe we should have Skinner make you decide what threads we should all read and what we should ignore. That would solve your problem right there!
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:15 AM
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8. Far more distressing
that someone would deliberately provoke flame bait by ridiculing rape as a trivial pursuit question about fucking.

Linda
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:18 AM
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10. Very well said, Linda. Thank you!
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BlueState Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:18 AM
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9. Clearly this is not a thread that is about "fucking"
Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 09:25 AM by BlueState
This thread is about rape laws and potential changes to them. The definition of rape and of consent may have come into the public consience, of late, because of a sensationalized case (Kobe Bryant) but this is clearly is an issue of importance.

How, in God's name, could you view a discussion on a change in law regarding a heinous crime (and one with politacal implications concerning the equality of and violence toward, women in our society) and find it trivial?

This is a mind bogglingly stupid statement you have made.
(By the way this the very first time I have ever said anything remotely negative or argumentative to a fellow DU'er)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:20 AM
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11. I had to pull myself away from that thread. But not because...
...it was trivial, but rather because my blood pressure couldn't handle it.
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:25 AM
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12. Obviously you wanted to revive the topic
Edited on Mon Aug-04-03 09:25 AM by Booberdawg
judging by your deliberate characterization of rape as a trivial matter about fucking. Are you happy now? :spank:

Linda
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:26 PM
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13. Figures people would argue it is about rape. NO,
it is about fucking until the law is passed that "you can say no after copulation begins" and that if you say no and your partner doesn't stop that your partner is a rapist, THEN it is rape.

Until the law is passed it is fucking. }(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:28 PM
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14. NO, wrong is always wrong
I'm sure your mother taught you that. The law is only for people who can't differentiate right from wrong on their own.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:32 PM
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15. So let me get this straight.
If your fucking some woman, and half way through she says, "no stop, get off, stop it your hurting me, PLEASE STOP!" then it's OK to keep on fucking her?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:32 PM
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16. Alright already! Now Fuck Off!
:evilgrin:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:51 PM
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18. cute.
:eyes:
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:54 PM
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19. The law was passed!
What do you mean "until the law is passed"??? The law was passed, so your argument, as ridiculous as it is, doesn't hold water.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:29 PM
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28. No before then it was rape as well but a few people were too fucking
stupid to get it and thought it was fucking so blame yourself as one who really doesn't have a fucking clue.

In fact, men everywhere who are concerned about this law should really be piling their shit about this law on you. It is clear someone with your mindset is what necessitated RAPE LAWS FOR FUCKING MORONS WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND A MONOSYLLABIC WORD>
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:38 PM
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20. Well now its up 569 replies
just dont open the thread man. Then it wont bother you.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:48 PM
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21. What a fucking tragedy that you can't distinguish between rape and
fucking. Don't feel bad though. There are a few posters on that thread that shared your disability.

See...it wasn't about rape or fucking after all...it was mostly about men with a hearing disability where the word NO is concerned.

Frankly, I think someone calling RAPE "fucking" is about as sexist as language can get but I won't hold my breath waiting for it to be interpreted as such.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:54 PM
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22. Who Died?
and made you the "fucking" boss?

Frankly I found that thread to be one of the more telling ones about some of the folks on DU and their childish attitudes.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:54 PM
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23. i hear ya...scary isn't it?
:puke:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:15 PM
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25. Riiiight
rape is a joke. The fact that lines are sometimes blurry so folks don't get when rape is rape... no big deal... more important things to think about. Perhaps this attitude is why the incident of rape is so incredibly high (and underreported) in this country? If you still think it is something to make light of... would you like me to elucidate some of the more "enlightened" thread topics and discussions around rape that I have read here, on this progressive site, over the past two years? I would rather not have to repeat the highlights - but if you really need it - I could give a summary.

That thread was atrocious. I was glad it was finally shut down. That is not to say that the general topic does not merit discussion. It does. And while most DUers demonstrate a great deal of maturity around the topic, there are some who don't. Dismissing the topic of rape, while not overly common (in terms of the majority of posters), does happen from time to time here at Du.

Sorta like this thread, for example. It won't make the egregious list, but it certainly does exemplify the dismissiveness.

Relating discussions of rape to trivial pursuit - when it is still and exceptionally common crime in this country... well it is telling.

Hey all you rape survivors.. talking about anything related to your situation.. go play a milton bradley game... its a better use of our time.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:18 PM
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26. Rape is not a relevant topic?
Tell us what's relevant and we will see if we can help. :crazy:
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