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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:50 AM
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LIHOP 2: Statue of Liberty?
This is from an ongoing series supposedly about memos sent to all major media oulets from a single source. The memos are alleged to be "instructions" to the media on what to promote, what to blackout and what to expect.

Some interesting takes on events, but something there doesn't quite pass the sniff test. You have been warned.

BTW, these are excerpts from parts 13 & 14 of what is currently a 15 part series.

(July 14) Happy talk at the Pentagon about a universal draft is fading away. No chance of this disaster even being broached and it should not be mentioned at all. It is doubtful that the White House will touch this one now…There is a growing fear in counter intelligence circles that if the resistance movement in Iraq is not stopped, the resulting very bad PR might cause an “incident” somewhere in the US just before election time to whip the voters up to vote for Bush as a “wartime leader” who can put a number of draconian laws and edicts in place to “protect the American people.” Someone in the FBI said to one of our people, entirely off the record, that quote it will probably be the Statue of Liberty endquote. There must be no speculation on this subject under any circumstances. If some rigged incident does happen and we comment on it in advance, new regulations could cause us serious problems …If this happens, it will be Rumsfeld who plans and executes it. This will give the President the usual deniability. It is more than likely that we will get some advance notice of such an action and then decisions can be made relative to going to the public. On one hand, it would be a magnificent media coup guaranteeing ratings off the chart and on the other, a death sentence…

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a516.htm

(July 17) The White House is now moving into a bunker mentality, very much like Nixon during the end of the Watergate business. With mounting Iraqi opposition and facing a very capable guerrilla movement, supplied by Syria and Russia, the US has run into the stone wall we all predicted. His personality will not permit the President to withdraw in good order; the neocons and the oil people will simply not let him. Bush is stuck between the rock and the proverbial hard place…serious growing unrest in the troops coupled with very low morale, growing death tolls, lack of rotation, real fear of being fatally attacked are all leading to a situation that our Pentagon source informs us could actually erupt into open mutiny. Couple all of this with the terrible economy, the insistence of the Bush people on insane tax cuts (to help out corporate America), the obvious right wing political and religious fanatics supporting the President and we have the makings of serious, probably fatal, domestic problems. The fear is that a frantic Administration could connive at some kind of domestic terrorism if and when they perceive the President slumping badly in the polls. He already is and it looks like it might go like the economy. Today, a 65% favorite; tomorrow matching Davis’ 20%.

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a535.htm


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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:53 AM
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1. No
The Statue of Liberty has no significance since it is no more than an empty symbol.

If there is a target, it would be Indian Point.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:00 AM
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2. G.E. might not like that
If a nuke plant gets hit, future prospects of sales goes down.


I think it will be a big NASCAR event. :shrug:
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:12 AM
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6. Flight 175 flew close to Indian Point on it's way to crashing into the
south tower of the WTC.
It's really strange that it ignored Indian Point completely and kept on going. This is the reason that I believe in MIHOP.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:02 AM
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3. france gave it to us, lets bomb it for the flag
who needs france anyway the dirty surrender monkeys. i say we blow up the damned french figurine, and blame it on the arabs and keep this thing rolling along according to pnac plans.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:04 AM
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4. I would be more worried
about Mt. Rushmore, to be honest. Also, bridges are known to be a target, remember that Brooklyn bridge plot.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 10:16 PM
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13. An attack on Mt Rushmore would be an attack on bad taste...
and kitsch. I don't think that's the objective.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:08 AM
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5. If there is an attack, I think it will be
on the internet. Bushco has been in power too long to escape blame for another large scale attack of violence.

But if the net is attacked, blame will be easier for him to escape Imagine the reactionary effects on "the information age", *many* of which will benefit Bushco and damage his detractors.

There are whispers about internet terrorism periodically in the media but every govt hearing I see, has the internet "police" working on child porn.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:20 AM
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7. Let's think outside of the box a bit
Here's my list of potential targets we ought to protect:

1. Hoover Dam. Imagine if that puppy went.
2. O'Hare. Can anyone say "transportation hub"?
3. The Macinaw (sp? as a Michigander, I ought to know this!) Bridge. Destroying that would virtually isolate the citizens of the U.P.
4. The NYSE.
5. Bay area piers.
6. The Micro$oft corporate offices. I hate to say it, but... they are an important company, all animosity aside.
7. Vegas.
8. Cedar Point. If what happened to the towers were to happen there, the tower attacks would look like a frilling warmup.

Note, all of these are functional targets with the potential to either kill thousands in a single stroke or seriously inconvienience tens of thousands (or, in the case of Micro$oft, God alone knows how many) of people.

There are simply too many targets to safeguard.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:54 PM
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10. I don't think so...
IMO, the attack would be highly symbolic, but not trash what's left of the economy. Lady Liberty or Mt. Rushmore would be prime candidates.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:36 PM
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11. Hoover dam
I don't know, the Hoover dam is really, really big, and extremely thick to boot. I have no idea what a plane strike would do to it, but taking it down might take a lot more than that.

I recall reading in the aftermath of 9/11 that Al Qaeda rejected a nuclear plant strike because it was feared that the consequences would be uncontrollable - i.e. potential nuclear war...who knows?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:22 AM
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8. The Inet can't be effectively attacked except by governments
it's too distributed. It would be like pounding sand.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:27 AM
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9. the Statute of Liberty is closed
I tried to go there last month on vacation and couldn't. It's closed to the public.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 09:58 PM
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12. Wrong, wrong wrong!
There won't be any attack.

There will be a THWARTED attack.

If an attack occurs, Bush has failed to protect the American people and will suffer at the ballot box.

However, if he thwarts an attack then he has heroically saved America and will expect our gratitude (and votes) in return.

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