March 23, 2004: the day democracy died

shooga

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:32 PM
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March 23, 2004: the day democracy died

Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 12:37 PM by shooga

anyone else getting a sickening feeling in the stomach that the "panel" will sweep this all under the rug??

March 23, 2004: the day democracy died

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bif

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:35 PM
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1. The day democracy died is when the Ssupreme Court

Installed this bastard in office.

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tom_paine

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:49 PM
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16. At the very least it was the day Democracy was sorely wounded

The jury is still out on whether the wound was mortal.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:37 PM
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2. What else is new? Remember the Warren Commission? Iran/Contra?

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buycitgo

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:39 PM
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3. amen howdy on this!

I just emailed bitchkitty, proprietor of bushbodycount, saying how disgusted I am so far, and now, after seeing your header, I think I'll send another one, suggesting that USA should be added!

what do you think?

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:42 PM
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6. Yep. The corruption goes straight to the bone. WE are a rogue nation.

We have WMDs, and have used them in the past.

We invade other nations on the slimmest of pretexts.

We have "troubled" elections.

We have a concentration camp.

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Vickers

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:59 PM
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22. Damn. Your post scares me.

Because it's true.

Damn.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:29 PM
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28. Yep. We woke up one day, and our republic has turned rogue.

WTF? How did THAT happen?

MPM,
Knows the answer, but doesn't want to face it.

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Nashyra

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:39 PM
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4. The hope of this country now firmly in the hands

of the widow that is sueing the administration for the death of her husband. Those that are wounded most will be the hope of getting back our Democracy.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:43 PM
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7. Um, no. Think 1968-1972.

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RoundRockD

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:42 PM
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5. Whatever made me think that the members of the panel would not play

politics with 9/11. This panel is a joke. If I hear one more person say, "But there hasn't been an attack on the US for over two years" I will scream. It's as if attacks on the US were common before 9/11. Am I crazy? I don't understand the logic in that statement.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:44 PM
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8. Are you somehow amazed? Suprised? This is just as rich as Ashcroft &

Arnie offering to "investigate themselves".

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RoundRockD

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:47 PM
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11. I'm embarrassed to say that I am surprised. Won't happen again.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:48 PM
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13. Welcome to the post-American century. Check your

self-respect, national pride, and liberties at the door.

Thank you, citizen!

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tom_paine

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:52 PM
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17. Unfortunately, I remember them all too well

And yes, initial report indicate that this might be very similar.

Do the Democrats ever learn?

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:53 PM
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18. Nope. We expect that everyone loves justice. NEWSFLASH:

They don't.

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MSgt213

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:44 PM
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9. Don't expect a republican controlled commission to indict Bush

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:45 PM
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10. Ya think? LOL!

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:47 PM
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12. I don't know what you expected from these hearings, but

I don't think it's going as badly as you say.

Powell and Armitage have both contradicted Cheney's and Rice's public statements.

There are a couple of other folks coming before the committee, including Richard Clarke. His testimony should be quite interesting.

Sorry to be so blind and ignorant, but what exactly do you think will be swept under the rug?

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:49 PM
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15. The whole thing. Again, think back on the

Warren Commission and the Iran/Contra hearings.

Nothing will be done.

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:55 PM
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19. Please also recall the Watergate hearings

That was pretty dull until John Dean testified.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:56 PM
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20. Yep. But you also have to remember that the GOP wanted Nixon gone, too.

This is not exactly analogous.

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:58 PM
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21. Okay, I have to ask again

Just what do you think the purpose of this hearing/this commission is?

And please support the assertion that GOP wanted Nixon gone. That is not how I recall it.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:00 PM
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24. The purpose? Easy:

Smoke and mirrors. Same as Iran/contra.

As for Nixon, I seem to remember the GOP in congress demanding his resignation, and threatening to impeach in lieu of it. They felt that he had endangered the party, with nothing to gain from it.

This time, there's plenty to gain.

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:03 PM
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25. GOP certainly wasn't demanding Nixon out before Dean

testified. Check the record.

Iran/Contra hearings were a bad joke, I agree, because of the impotence of certain senators, but this commission isn't doing too badly. Honestly, I think they just want to shine a little light on what the hell went wrong, and I think Richard Ben-Veniste, among others, is being pretty damned good in his questioning.

You seem to think this is some sort of impeachment hearing. Couldn't disagree more. And I don't think this committee is going to help GW Bush very much.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:28 PM
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27. Sorry that took so long, I was reviewing transcripts. You are 100%

correct. My memory seems to be going in my ancient, decrepit state. :D

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:42 PM
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29. No problemo

I am so rarely 100% correct, that I think I'll celebrate by having soup for lunch.

Best to you.

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MadProphetMargin

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:45 PM
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30. LOL! Enjoy.

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:48 PM
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14. It died on Election Day 2000.

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DemBones DemBones

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Tue Mar-23-04 12:59 PM
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23. I'm another who thinks our democracy ended 12/12/ 2000,

killed by SCOTUS.

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swag

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:04 PM
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26. Well, we've got to get it back, then, don't we?

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DeepModem Mom

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Tue Mar-23-04 01:48 PM
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31. Didn't Max Cleland say he quit the panel because he knew...

nothing of value was going to come from it? Listening so far, I fear he may be right --

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