DRUDGE: New Woodward book will be EXPLOSIVE

Clarke is just the warmup.

Anyone have any titbits on this new book besides the release date?

You'll excuse me if I don't get my hopes up.

a feeling of hopelessness afterward. What a sad tale! Maybe there are finally authors coming forward to tell the truth who will be listened to.

....and I do want to see "Horns and Halos" Been looking for it.

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First he writes, "Bush at War," then he writes "War on Bush." They'll turn on you on a dime.

Journalists have long memories, and when they find out they've been lied to or bulshitted, the pen truly is mightier than the sword.

it will be exposive against Bush - - or for him?

He had been gushing about the Chimp publicly for some time. If there is something negative in the book it would mean that he had a major change of heart.

since MWO has been out to pasture, they never named 2003 Whore of the Year.

Maybe the title shamed him enough to do some honest reporting. It seems to have quieted Howard Fineman (Whore of the Year 2001) a bit.

Enough said.

putting tiny sticks of dynamite in the book's binding is not such a good idea. Seriously, considering Drudge is pushing this combined with Woodward's recent history, this is more likely to be pro *

then why did Tucker C. say on Chris Matthews today that the WH is 'very worried' about this book.

maybe Woodward didn't tell ALL he knew in the first book...

maybe he was tenderizing the meat before tossing it on the grill?

we'll know soon enough.

Actually, wasn't there a quote made by Bush somewhere in Bush at War that made him look bad? I can't remember exactly what it was, but I remember seeing it here.

the insipid chimp stated that he felt no "URGENCY" about bin Laden.

it was issue #1 until the Clinton team left.

then, it was ignored. 100 MSC meetings, NONE on al Qaeda until 9/4/01. no meetings of Cheney's terrorism group... he had 'other priorities'....

37 americans died from al Qaeda terrorism during the 8 years of Clinton....

you know, the rest of the story

I believe there was also another quote, someting that made Bush look egotistical. I'm going to see if I can find it.

"I am the commander-- see... I do not need to explain to anyone why I say things" (p.276)

What a asshole. I also found out someone with my username has a right-wing blog. :puke:

"that's the funny thing about being president. People have to explain things to me." NOT a verbatim quote. But I suspect I'll find it. It's in paperback now, and I just bought it last night. Don't know which to read first - Woodward, Clarke, or John Dean. OR the House of bush, House of Saud. My book store had all the good ones.

Because it's not.

He would not draw attention and lend credibility to a book which would do the Bush White House harm.

Why?

Distract from the truly damning books. Raise expectations that Woodward's has the White House worried, and then, when there's nothing particularly damning, use that as vindication for Bush.

Drudge and Carlson? This is a concerted Republican mind game.

...since Woodward's first allegiance, for thirty-five years, has always been to the intelligence apparat -- in his case ONI -- through which he got into the Nixon White House as a Presidential briefer, then onto the WaPo.

If he has reached the conclusion that Junta Boy is a lethal threat to the intelligence community -- and I bet the Plaime affair affected him greatly -- then he could conceivably throw Blotchy to the wolves.

Conceivably.

...you're a little off. From one of my ealier posts:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1296102&mesg_id=1298520>

Other than that, I think we're in agreement.

I mean, we're talking Druge and Woodward here. Neither are trustworthy.

Drudge said he'd lost his (some) respect for Rove. They should have seen this issue coming.

Creative titling like "Plan of Attack" and the engaging personality displayed by the man on Larry King leave me chomping at the bit at the opportunity to dip into that prose.

We have heard this stuff already today.

LOL (at titbits)

Is there something you'd like to get off your chest about this thread?

Something's up. Tucker Carlson and Drudge? Come on. What are they trying to do?

Maybe it's just to imply an anti-Bush conspiracy on the part of the publisher of both books.... or whoever owns them and CBS.

want us to read it. Makes me suspect.

Even beyond the rah-rah patriotism, ultimately, the bottom line is audience, and cash.

Tucker said that they were worried about Clarke's book and VERY WORRIED about Woodward's book.

Doesn't seem right. If they were that worried about it, they'd want to bury it, not advertise it.

I did. I read it when it first came out. A great deal of what Clarke is saying now was written in black and white. I distinctly remember Woodward writing about an arguement that the team in the "situation room" had....Rumsfeld didn't want to "pound sand" so much in Afghanistan, and suggested, "Let's hit Iraq. We'll probably find out later that they've had something to do with this anyway." ...or something of that nature.

"Bush at War" was actually a trial balloon for all this foolishness we're engaged in at the time...it worked just like PNAC. Everything there in plain sight for all to see...the perfect hiding place for their plans.

If the American people would read a little, instead of letting the almighty television give them their info, they wouldn't be able to be taken advantage of so easily.

*sigh*

Soup Bean .........Where have you been? Excellent point about people not reading enough and getting all their info from TV.
Look forward to more of your posts.

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Soup Bean,

I read this book last year and was suprised that the discussions about Iraq were revealed in such a straight forward fashion. I was just telling a friend, who was going to buy Clark's book that the information in Clark's book can be corroborated by the information in "Bush at War." When I read "bush at war" I was puzzled as to why their wasn't more attention called to all the "lets bomb Iraq first" discussions that were going on among bushco.

and he was there, also.

Plan of Attack: The Road to War, "a follow-up to Bush at War, deals with the Iraq War and the ongoing war on terrorism". Not much buzz available at all, seems they are keeping it under wraps. He should plan on doing a trilogy. Maybe the third one will be called "Miserable Failure: The Road to Indictment".

:)

:bounce:

I'm just saying.

as if this will be a huge bombshell!

that is so "explosive" - ?????

is a media whore...he is past the point of return. Dont get your hopes up to high about a wqoodward book. Plus, watching him on Larry King lately tells me he in bed with Bush.

All the King's Men softly showed Woodward's obsequious style of gaining information within conservative GOP circles. However he has spent decades being nothing but smarmy and subservient and career climbing since then. Was that ALL a biuildup to a second coup de grace? Even when they warily brought him in to do a fourth grade reading level encomium of Bush heroically responding to 911 he was not allowed to get close and has had a lot of better competition much closer to kissing the WH rear.

So it will be interesting and they will never trust him again if it is negative after all.

So it had better be good if he's being "bad".

The only way for a guy like Woodward to get the kind of access he needs is by playing both sides.

blunt it a little before it breaks, attempting a little advance damage control. After all, hasn't that strategy been discussed, at length, here on DU, about the "finding of Osama?" If it doesn't come as such a blind-side surprise when it finally happens, it may not be as deadly. Like stocking up on band-aids and snakebite medicine before you go hiking. It's not damage control, it's damage containment and abetment. (If that's a word.)

Rushbo and the right-wing crowd will protest. "It's an election year. yada, yada yada. Read one, you've read them all" will be the inference.

And just before Joe Wilson's book hits the shelves. Hmmmmmm.

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The briefing

Fit of conniption: I hear that "Plan of Attack," supersleuth Bob Woodward's still-secret study of President Bush's war on terrorism, will be very bad for the Bush reelection campaign - which is still reeling from gun-toting former terrorism chief Richard A. Clarke's critique of Bush, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and other administration figures in "Against All Enemies."

Woodward's book, to be released next month, will receive not only a multipart series in The Washington Post, but also the Mike Wallace treatment on "60 Minutes" April 18 - when I am absolutely confident that the common corporate ownership of CBS and Woodward's publisher, Simon & Schuster, will be mentioned.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/178600p-155314c.html

It wouldn't make a lot of sense for an investigative journalist to write a pro-Bush book that would come out right in the middle of a reelection campaign. Would it sell?

it's probably to drive up public interest and sales if it's a pro-bush book.

He is full up with himself but I have enjoyed his writings.

His problem. No Sources.

He is like Bush. Trust Me.

If he attacks Bush I will drink two pepsi.

...like an exploding cigar in our faces.'

Or its just a prank they are pulling.

Cmon..Tucker Carlson, and now Drudge?

I smell a rat.

This will be nothing more than a self-satisfying, master-serving piece of Chimpy puffery.

I'm not holding my breath for anything earthshattering to come from Woodward's pen.

From The Commanders (a solid book that first launched Powell-mania) to Bush at War to this upcoming book the common thread will be that Colin Powell is always right about everything. Powell and Woodward have a complex symbiosis.

Every word Powell said to the UN has been revealed to be false and I'm sure a life-long self-promoter like Powell wants to scrape the blame for that off while he's still in office. (Once he's out his story won't be a big deal anymore.)

We have known for a year that Powell won't be back if Bush holds power. Watching Powell edge away from the WH these days makes me think he may be ready (through Woodward) to settle scores with Rummy and Wolfiwitz. True story: during the transition Rummy told Powell's current deputy and old friend Dick Armitage that Rummy wasn't considering him for Deputy SEC DEF. Armitage told Rummy, "That's good because I wouldn't serve under you under any circumstances."

Though I am not sure what that mean.

(I believe) where he is asked if there will be more people coming out against Bush like Clarke. The guy said yes and pointed to his boss Woodward's book. I have picked up in various places that Bush has let Woodward in on lots of things he doesn't tell the other media. I think that's because Woodward was a "notable person" and Woodward was busy kissing Bush ass. Hopefully, just as Condi performs her soft shoe act, Woodward steps on her feet. OHH, and aren't several of these pundits (remember Imus did) make reference to this publisher as the one who puts out all this "liberal crap" and is against Bush?-- it was one of their ways of attacking Clarke.

...that the Woodward book would make the Clarke book look like an "afternoon in the sandbox."

So maybe Woodward got access so he could play either way this year? Wouldn't it be cool if he really did go against Bush?

(I ain't holding my breath, but it *could* happen.)

Tucker C, Drudge, now Rush?


There is no way they are going to be touting this if it hurts the admin.

If anything Woodward is doing a demo job on the Demos....thats what makes it "explosive" for them.

This is going to really suck when it comes out....given what other have said it seems like Woodward has finally sold out.

Never underestimate the nut Right antipathy for Powell. He's about as popular with them as McCain.

Powell selling out the WH would delight Newt and Rush et al.--confirming their years of warnings that Powell is a closet Democrat.

was that Rush has been sandbagging the book because it's supposed to be hurtful to Bush*. So, we'll see if it's some sort of reverse hype or not. To be on the safe side, I ordered a hold on it from my library. No bucks till I know for sure what's up.

HERE WE GO AGAIN ... The four-star flap over Richard Clarke's war on terrorism book all began on "60 Minutes" March 14. Well, guess who's booked for the show on April 18? Journalist Bob Woodward, to tout his own book on the war on terrorism, "Plan of Attack," says New York's Daily News. And the tab reports buzz that the book will be much less kind to the White House than was Woodward's "Bush at War" two years ago.