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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:41 PM
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How is Howard Dean related to the former Dean Witter Investment Company?
In doing independent search on Dean Witter.......I don't find a connection. Can someone help me out about what the tie is? My search says Dean Witter started the company with family members. Their last name wasn't Dean. So where does Howard Dean fit in?

Anyone know?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:44 PM
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1. I have never read of a connection
this is the first i have even read of a speculation to that end.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:46 PM
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2. Dean's father was a wealthy stock person
I'm not sure if he was the famous Dean of Dean Witter though.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:50 PM
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3. Dean Witter is a first and last name of fellow born in 1887
Dean Witter was born in Wausau, Wisconsin in 1887. He moved to California with his family in 1891, and after purchasing country land tracts in various areas of the state, the family moved to San Carlos on the Peninsula and eventually settled in Berkeley.


Dean Witter graduated from the University of California, Berkeley in 1909, and from 1909 worked for Louis Sloss & Company as a salesman on the California coast. With Charles Blyth he started Blyth, Witter & Company in 1914 and the two men ran the company until 1924, when he launched Dean Witter & Company with his brother Guy, cousins Jean and Ed Witter and their brother-in-law, Fritz Janney.
The San Francisco office of Dean Witter, located at 45 Montgomery Street,
was company headquarters; the business expanded greatly over the
years, partly through mergers. At the time of Witter's death in 1969
there were nearly 80 branches of Dean Witter & Co. in the U.S. and Canada and the company was the largest investment house on the West Coast.

Dean Witter interrupted his career to volunteer for duty in both World War I and World War II, during which he attained the rank of colonel.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:52 PM
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4. Not the same Dean...
His family was part of the high end financial community, but not THAT Dean.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:00 PM
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8. Egads!
BLM passes up an opportunity to slam on Dean?!!!

:wow:

ROFL!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:44 PM
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11. Go to any thread
that slams his looks, his demeanor or family....I don't slam.

Dean's OWN words and deeds in the political and legislative arena are fair targets.

There is perception and there is reality. I choose reality.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:17 PM
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14. I think the Deanies are so insecure
they take the slightest negative innuendo as a "slam".
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:16 PM
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15. Relax
I was taking the opportunity to needle BLM.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:27 AM
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26. blm is usually fair minded....
even when it comes to Dean. That is why I respect her.

Now if she would just see the light regarding Kerry...you know...voted for never-ending war, un-Patriot Act and Homeland Gestapo.

BTW blm...that is my "line in the sand", I will not cross.


:hi:blm
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:53 PM
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5. Did anyone else hear it mentioned that there was a connection to
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 07:53 PM by KoKo01
the Dean Witter Investment Company and that he had lots of family money because of this? I remember something about this early on.....and I'm sure I heard it more than once.

I'm not coming up with the connection. What did his father do? Does anyone know?
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dean4america Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:56 PM
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6. his father...
I *believe* his father worked at one time for the Dean Witter Co., but as the previous poster mentioned, he is not the "dean" in "dean witter".
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:57 PM
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7. Somebody posted something earlier today
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 08:03 PM by nannygoat
from Time (or Newsweek) showing profiles of both * and Dean and pointing out the similarities (both Yalies, both raised Repuke, both stopped drinking, what their father's/grandfather's did). This profile said that Dean's father was an "executive" with Dean Witter.

Edited to add the link to the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=128&topic_id=9035&mesg_id=9035

Great photo of Dean!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 08:10 PM
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9. Thanks Nanny and others....I need to get Time/Newsweek and read it. But,
if his father worked for Dean Witter, is it possible there is a family connection.....I'm trying to track this down.

If anyone knows please post.........anything that I might not know that was in the Time/Newsweek articles that I could search for.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 10:12 PM
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10. See DU - politics - for Dad's obit n/t
n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:28 PM
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16. Bush and Dean diverge on how they treat average people
Bush sees the haves and have mores as his political base.

Dean left the high finance world to become a doctor to help people one at a time. He entered politics to help more people at a time. Unlike Bush, Dean believes that social justic and fiscal responsibility can coincide.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 01:59 PM
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12. How is George Bush connected to Bush Beans?
And what the hell is he hiding with that secret recipe? :evilgrin: Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:15 PM
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13. LOL's....I'm not doing "dirt digging" I want to know everything about all
the candidates. If we don't know.......the press will dig it out and distort it.

Remember that old expression: To be forewarned is to be forearmed?

By know we know that all of our Democratic Candidates have been searched by the armies of researchers in the Media Whore operations and probably by Karl Rove and Ashcroft's fanantics.

At some point they will unleash their tidbits and spin and distort truths into ugliness. If we don't know everything and can counteract it then they will "win."
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:44 PM
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23. Oh, I wasn't accusing you of that!
Sorry if it came across that way. I just thought of Bush Beans when I read your post! :-)
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:36 PM
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17. This is on the Georgia for Dean site
but I don't where they got it.

http://www.georgiafordean.com/archives/000169.html

snip

"Dean is what he is. He is, at heart, a pragmatist, a problem solver. He is a Dean as in Dean Witter Reynolds (yep -- his family are those Deans) and he doesn't mind admitting it."



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 04:53 PM
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18. But, Dean Witter was a Witter not a Dean, LOL's I'm only trying to get the
connection. I also love geneaology......and for the reasons I stated above. Geez why do folks get so defensive about their candidates here?

I'm looking at all of them, even though I donated to Dean because he has SPOKEN UP for US!
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 07:27 PM
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19. I don't think it's a blood connection.
This article from CNN from a few days ago says this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/04/timep.dr.dean.tm/

"Howard Dean is the firstborn son of the aforementioned Andree (who can trace her family back to Richard Maitland, born in Scotland circa 1234) and Howard Brush Dean Jr. Like his own father and grandfather, Dean's dad made a living -- a very, very good living -- on Wall Street, retiring as a top executive of Dean Witter Reynolds. "

I think someone along the way misinterpreted that.

I have contacted the ga for Dean site about getting that story previously posted vetted properly.

Doesn't matter to me either way, but if we (Dean supporters) are gonna get asked, i want to know.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:35 PM
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21. Thanks for this link MGkrebs! A Scotish Connection! William Wallace
reincarnated! Wouldn't that be wonderful.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 08:31 PM
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20. I really love your albums, KoKo!!
you are one of the greatest blues singers alive!!! Everybody put your hands together for KoKo Taylor!!! WooooHooooooo!!!!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:38 PM
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22. LOL's there's also a Japanese "KoKo01" that shows up on Google Search!
I don't know what that one does...
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:04 AM
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24. Update, just for the record.
I contacted the person who wrote the article at www.georgiafordean.com that I referenced previously.This person agreed that the language was in error. It has now been corrected.

So to reiterate: Dean's father worked AT Dean Witter, but it is not a family relationship.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:10 AM
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25. The Connection is his Grandfather is the "DEAN" in Dean-Witter
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