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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:36 PM
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"Security Moms"
is the new term being thrown around...I guess to replace those
"Soccer Moms", a degrading term for someone who spends their days
driving their kids around...
Anyone with a brain knows that there is no way to insure security in
this country or any other country...even Israel, with fences, high security methods everywhere, gets terrorist bombings. There are
so many ways to "terrorize" an area...we just have to deal with it.

It's like the stupid drug war...better to spend the money on drug treatment centers and education for the young not to start using drugs. It's ridiculous.

Dems need to counter this ridiculous notion that this pResident
or any can really secure this country, and focus instead on
setting aside real money to deal with the terrorist's aftermath when they come, including personnel and supplies.

Whadda think?

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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:44 PM
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1. Come at it from the other side....
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 04:45 PM by markbark
Quoth the poster:
setting aside real money to deal with the terrorist's aftermath when they come, including personnel and supplies

How about removing the terrorist's motivation?
Take that $4 billion a day that Chimpy is currently pissing away into the desert and use it to build schools, water systems, electric grids, etc.
Point out to the locals that the US is offering them stability and prosperity whilst the Taliban and their ilk are pulling them headlong into the 12th century.
If the US is seen as a power that is improving their lives, then the popularity of the extremists would have the life-span of a Bush campaign promise.


--MAB


on edit - Anti-typo man to the rescue!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:45 PM
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2. I envisioned women in camoflauge with an AK-47 slung over the shoulder
but I've been told that I have a warped sense of humor. I found the term ridiculous.
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:49 PM
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3. I agree and add .... duhbie is hardly the "security" pResident ....
he's given away to the very wealthiest in the form of tax breaks, the money that might have been spent on security, including adding more police, improving hospital facilities, inspecting containers that come into our nation's ports, airline security, etc, etc.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:52 PM
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4. amen.
Bush talks out of one side of his mouth and pockets the
money with the other hand.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 04:54 PM
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5. I think the whole issue is a smokescreen
the only terrorists who have targeted America are The BFEE.
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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 05:06 PM
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6. just more of the duct tape and plastic bs
dhs is not getting funded, so we have to depend on moms to do the security.
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 05:08 PM
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7. It's a sexist dlc demographic
They hope women think they need their protection from halucinated terrorists in Iraq.

It is really men like Dennis Miller and James Woods this notion appeals too.

They will vote for Shrub no matter what.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:28 PM
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11. It is DAMN sexist! Thank you, CL.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 05:14 PM
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8. It won't work
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 05:16 PM by jiacinto
People are afraid and are concerned about their safety. Looking weak or letting the GOP have the 40+ point advantage on safety and national security is not smart political strategy. And people don't want to hear that there is "nothing we can do" to change it. In the current political environment that message won't suffice.

People want solutions to their concerns/worries over terrorism. Saying that you "can't do anything" is not going to assauge them.
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 05:38 PM
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9. Security Moms have been around for a few years
I overhear them at the park or the mall, fretting about how to prevent their kids from being kidnapped or whatever. NONE of the kids at my son's elementary school ride a bike to school even though it's urban and many people live within a few blocks. Some people walk, but most people line upe in their cars to drop off and pick up their kids.

I rode my bike to school every day from the 2nd grade in the 70's. Kids now are so bubble-ized that it's tragic. Never mind telling these folks that kidnappings and other crimes against kids are at 30-year LOWS. They won't let you spoil their paranoia.

I realize that the topic was National Security, but I think it's a related phenomena. Build a bigger fence, buy a bigger SUV, get more alarm systems, move to a gated community - spend any amount of money to protect YOUR family, and then vote against anything that might actually make a better, safer society. That's the overall trend, and I hate it.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:11 PM
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10. Good points.
Thanks for offering them.
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 07:35 PM
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12. are there any actual women behind this term?
I would like to know if there have been any articles profiling so-called "security moms" -- I mean in the national security sense of the word. Are there actual organizations in the vein of MADD that are pro-war-on-terrorism?

I know one article doesn't mean there's a mass movement, but I just wonder if this is a total pundit fantasy, because it sounds like one.
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